Ethereal jaunt in the outer planes?

Halivar · Nov 21, 2003

Can you do it? I know that the ethereal and shadow planes mirror the material plane, but what about the outer planes?

If the ethereal plane does not exist past the material plane, can you have incorporeal creatures in the outer planes?

I can't find rules for this anywhere!!!

Xeriar · Nov 21, 2003

Up to the DM. Some planes have etherreal planes, and/or shadow planes, others don't.

They are seperate planes from the normal etherreal and shadow, however, except for the elemental planes.

MarauderX · Nov 21, 2003

With me as a DM, I would say it fails. I would pick up the Manual of the Planes and riffle through it between sessions to find out if it said anything on the matter, but as the planes aren't 'close' to one another, I would say no.

Hardhead · Nov 21, 2003

MarauderX said:
With me as a DM, I would say it fails. I would pick up the Manual of the Planes and riffle through it between sessions to find out if it said anything on the matter, but as the planes aren't 'close' to one another, I would say no.

Unless you're using a non-standard cosmology, it fails. The Ethereal Planes is not contemerous with the Outer Planes. In 2e, it was also contemerous with the Inner Planes, but in 3e, you can only access the Ethereal from the Prime.