The Spectrum Rider
First Post
I was thinking of using a harpy Siren5 against my PCs, but the description has some surprises in it that made me wonder how carefully playtested it was.
A minor thing: they have a harpy Siren2 as their example. But I don't think a harpy with no class levels can qualify for the PrC, because she couldn't have 6 ranks of Bluff - it's a cross-class skill for harpies (as described elsewhere in Savage Species).
But my main concern is the number of special songs the Siren gets per day. Song of Despair is listed at once/day, period. But EACH of the others are listed at once per level per day. This seems a bit much to me, and not in keeping with the way D&D usually works.
For example, at 4th level, the Siren gets the Song of Nightmare (phantasmal killer, on everyone within range). This is pretty strong. And she gets it 4 times a day, independent of any uses of any of her other special songs. Third level, she can't do it at all; fourth level, she can do it four times a day, without restricting her other abilities. This doesn't look anything like, for example, bard or virtuoso abilities, which seem like the closest example.
Given the fact that the Song of Despair stands out like a sore thumb (only once a day, even at high levels), I wonder if maybe they wrote this up wrong. Here's something that would make more sense to me: she can use her special songs once per level per day, total. (It would make even more sense if some of the songs cost more than one "song use.")
Any comments? Has anyone tried this out in a real game? How did it go?
The Spectrum Rider
A minor thing: they have a harpy Siren2 as their example. But I don't think a harpy with no class levels can qualify for the PrC, because she couldn't have 6 ranks of Bluff - it's a cross-class skill for harpies (as described elsewhere in Savage Species).
But my main concern is the number of special songs the Siren gets per day. Song of Despair is listed at once/day, period. But EACH of the others are listed at once per level per day. This seems a bit much to me, and not in keeping with the way D&D usually works.
For example, at 4th level, the Siren gets the Song of Nightmare (phantasmal killer, on everyone within range). This is pretty strong. And she gets it 4 times a day, independent of any uses of any of her other special songs. Third level, she can't do it at all; fourth level, she can do it four times a day, without restricting her other abilities. This doesn't look anything like, for example, bard or virtuoso abilities, which seem like the closest example.
Given the fact that the Song of Despair stands out like a sore thumb (only once a day, even at high levels), I wonder if maybe they wrote this up wrong. Here's something that would make more sense to me: she can use her special songs once per level per day, total. (It would make even more sense if some of the songs cost more than one "song use.")
Any comments? Has anyone tried this out in a real game? How did it go?
The Spectrum Rider
