Exalted vs D&D. The battlelines are drawn!

[TheAuldGrump]

Wake me when the battle's over, so I can ignore the winner....

The Auld Grump, not much interested in either system, thank you all the same....

 

[moritheil]

And yet, so few here play it: http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=220335

 

[DragonLancer]

Kudos to White Wolf for trying this.

I am sure that there are folks out there who disillusioned by the direction D&D is going or who plan on buying 4E, who might well be interested in getting rid of those books in exchange for something different.

 

[SSquirrel]

I give white-wolf around 4-5 years before wotc and hasbro manage to drive them out of business!

They haven't managed to drive WW out of business in nearly 20 years, why would they do so now? There are lots of people who play games from both companies, but the World of Darkness games, Trinity universe games and Exalted don't really have a lot of stylistic or genre overlap w/D&D IMO.

 

[Vocenoctum]

I think that's my main laugh about it, Exalted doesn't feel like D&D, and if someone is happy with 3.5 and angry about changing to 4e...

well, Exalted is so different, I just don't see that.

Many of us play lots of different games. The fact that I played Shadowrun doesn't mean I did it because it was like D&D. They should be highlighting what makes Exalted fun.

 

[Crothian]

This is a great deal!! I can buy a 3.5PHB for half of what I can an Exalted book, so it's like I'm getting the Exalted book for even cheaper. PHBs are much easier to come by these days.

 

[JustKim]

This is a great deal!! I can buy a 3.5PHB for half of what I can an Exalted book, so it's like I'm getting the Exalted book for even cheaper. PHBs are much easier to come by these days.

That was my thought when I read the offer, unfortunately I just bought Exalted 2E for full price a couple of months ago.

In the other thread there was a lot of outrage at books being destroyed, which is a funny bit of bibliophilia. Apparently there are a lot of posters who don't realize that usually when a book outlives its shelf date, its cover is torn off and sent back to the publisher as proof of nonsale while the contents are discarded. The reason it works this way is that the cover is tangible proof of nonsale but sending the entire book back is usually much more expensive. I expect publishers who receive whole books back only destroy them on their end anyway.

So White Wolf are not being villainous book murderers, they are just talking about an industry standard where laypeople can overhear.

 

[seskis281]

That was my thought when I read the offer, unfortunately I just bought Exalted 2E for full price a couple of months ago.

In the other thread there was a lot of outrage at books being destroyed, which is a funny bit of bibliophilia. Apparently there are a lot of posters who don't realize that usually when a book outlives its shelf date, its cover is torn off and sent back to the publisher as proof of nonsale while the contents are discarded. The reason it works this way is that the cover is tangible proof of nonsale but sending the entire book back is usually much more expensive. I expect publishers who receive whole books back only destroy them on their end anyway.

So White Wolf are not being villainous book murderers, they are just talking about an industry standard where laypeople can overhear.

Having worked in a bookstore I can tell you this is quite true....

And believe me, as a professor who also sees editions of textbooks changed as regularly as most infants' diapers, "previous edition" books, unless they make it into the "collectible" range, suddenly become valued somewhere between doorstop and firewood.

Will 3.x material have the same value-added as 1e material does now? Doubtful.... different eras, different historical contexts, and PDFs of the material fly everwhere.

I actually never got 3.5 books - but I still have my initial 3.0 corebooks.

 

[Cergorach]

That's 2500 potential new players directly, and another huge amount of potential players that are rounded up by all the ruckuss. It's a relative cheap marketing campaign, Exalted is 'large' enough to allow for a huge print run, making individual books relatively cheap. They now get 2500 folks to hold their book in hand, read it and actual like it. The willingness to give up your 3.5E book(s) for it might mean that folks are actually open to move on to something else...

WW is in no trouble, the are now owned by CCP a MMO computer game company (Eve-Online) that's actually working on a World of Darkness MMO, WotC/Hasbro had to get that made outside of the company. They have enough talent that would rather work with/for WW then for WotC.

I thought that the whole business with stripping books from their cover was banned, atleast by WW, something to do with the environment...

 

[GVDammerung]

Good for WW! Upside, they get some new folks to look at Exalted. Downside, they write off some Exalted books at cents on the dollar as marketing expense.

Unfortunately, I have less interest in Exalted than in 4e. Say what you want about Wotc but they know how to write a readable and immediately reference-able game book. WW does not. Even the chapter heads of WW books are often of little guidance.

Good for WW but no thanks, not until they learn that a game book is not a novel or stream-of-consciousness.