Exclusive Races/Classes in Dragon: Why the Angst?

[GMforPowergamers]

I have to ask, when you bought your mac, didn't you KNOW there were MANY software options you would lose out on if you didn't run a window emulator???

It seaams when you weighted the pros and cons, you saw that con and found the pros out weigh it...so why complain about something you knew going in???

Now I agree you should say "Please add mac," or "Are we going to get some mac love" or even "I Hope we get a mac eqiv"...but to say it is unfair is a joke...

 

[malraux]

The simple truth is that its nearly as cheap to make a web based application platform neutral as it is to make it a hassle to less popular platforms to use.

Ummm, the web apps are platform neutral.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I weigh over 350lbs...
I wear 3x, and sometimes 4x shirts...(I can wear 2x but they are tight)

Or, to put it a different way, would you buy T-shirts from a company that charged $1.50 more per increase in size? $1? $0.50?

there is often a cost jump between 2 and 3 X shirts...and I but them anyway..

 

[Scribble]

Shrug.

When Dragon was in print it cost me a lot in shelf space to keep up any kind of collection.

Digital costs a lot less shelf space for me. And a lot smaller of a cost in Wife angry looks for taking up so much shelf space with my hobby. (Especially in SF where space is a premium...)

When we lived in Philly, where shelf space was much more available, I got less angry looks, and could afford to keep more issues about. Should I have been angry about the injustice imposed upon SF people?

So it costs more for mac users. Oh well, life is tough.

Does that mean you have to buy the product? Of course not. You don't have to be happy about it, or accept it, but if you grumble about it in an online forum, people will offer solutions. (And I think a lot of the time people are really just trying to be helpful. Trying to offer you a way to experience something they enjoy.) Sometimes those solutions will cost more then the "optimal" situation.

Seems to me that people will pay more for something they want, and just grumble for the sake of grumbling when they really don't want it that much to begin with.

So uh... grumble away I guess. Have fun with that. Maybe Wotc will decide the mac fanbase is strong enough to build the apps for them too. In the meantime I'ma keep enjoying my DDI subscription on my PC. (It's VISTA too... OMG!!!11!11)

You can enjoy all the new multimedia editing stuff macs have always been ahead of the PC curve on, to my dismay I guess.

 

[Krensky]

I weigh over 350lbs...
I wear 3x, and sometimes 4x shirts...(I can wear 2x but they are tight)
there is often a cost jump between 2 and 3 X shirts...and I but them anyway..

I'm similar, over 350lbs, around 6'3" with a 33" inseam and wear a 13 EE shoe.

All my clothes cost more. Sometimes a lot more.

I don't complain that it's unfair.

When you buy a Mac you're choosing to pay more for a boutique machine with more limited hardware and software options. This is true of pretty much everything Apple makes.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I have to ask, when you bought your mac, didn't you KNOW there were MANY software options you would lose out on if you didn't run a window emulator???

I've been a Mac user since they first came out- there was never an issue of "missing out" until quite recently. While not every computer game for PC made it to Mac, the Mac game section of my local store had the same top 10 games as were in the PC section. Why mess with the rest when we get the best?

As for emulation- again, I do find myself doing that (or, on occasion, using PCs) for work, and don't care for it, so I don't own any such at home.

There are precious few things in the computer world that are so indispensable to me that I find I need an emulator or WinTel machine to access them. Gaming doesn't rise to that level. Instead, I spend my computer $$$ on Mac stuff.

It seaams when you weighted the pros and cons, you saw that con and found the pros out weigh it...so why complain about something you knew going in???

Again, when I adopted the Mac, it was the superior platform for what I do (and actually, it still is). PCs simply didn't do what the Mac did out of the box, not without a LOT of modification.

but to say it is unfair is a joke...

I didn't say it was unfair for them to run their business the way they want- I was saying that it was unfair for them to shift a cost they could have borne easily to the consumer who must pay a proportionately greater cost- especially when it is a cost that is borne by only a subset of their consumers.

Due to economies of scale, its generally easier for a producer to bear a particular cost than it is for the end consumer.

If they had done as the majority of providers of internet resources have done and made their product platform neutral, they still would have had a profitable product.

Personally, I can afford to swallow those costs, but I choose not to. Not every Mac user can, though. But to tell me that my concerns about a difference in cost are trivial because the cost itself is trivial is to miss the point.

 

[malraux]

Does that mean you have to buy the product? Of course not. You don't have to be happy about it, or accept it, but if you grumble about it in an online forum, people will offer solutions. (And I think a lot of the time people are really just trying to be helpful. Trying to offer you a way to experience something they enjoy.) Sometimes those solutions will cost more then the "optimal" situation.

This would seem to be wise words to live by. If you don't want solutions, just to complain, I can understand that. But it seems odd to get upset at people who do offer solutions.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Ummm, the web apps are platform neutral.

When Dragon was in print form, its entire content was 100% platform neutral.

When they moved online, part of what you paid for wasn't. I'm not paying the same cost for Dragon as a PC user when I'm actually getting less.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I'm similar, over 350lbs, around 6'3" with a 33" inseam and wear a 13 EE shoe.

All my clothes cost more. Sometimes a lot more.

I don't complain that it's unfair.

When you buy a Mac you're choosing to pay more for a boutique machine with more limited hardware and software options. This is true of pretty much everything Apple makes.

Personally, I'm in the 250lb range, at 5' 7." However, several people in my life (friends and relatives) are about your size, and I do shop for them.

I rarely pay more for something for them unless its a 5X, a size 14 shoe or bigger- IMHO, you're being taken otherwise.

(Then again, D/FW is a shopper's paradise.)

But again, I'm NOT complaining that some stuff isn't available for Macs.

I'm complaining that someone has called my concern about a price differential trivial.

It isn't- and there are many RW periodicals (most who also use a dual tier publishing structure- paper & electronic) that I use that don't have this particular issue.

Does that mean you have to buy the product? Of course not.

And as I said, I choose not to. Ditto many Mac users.

 

[Scribble]

When Dragon was in print form, its entire content was 100% platform neutral.

When they moved online, part of what you paid for wasn't. I'm not paying the same cost for Dragon as a PC user when I'm actually getting less.

Not if you didn't speak English.

Also, if you lived in another country, prices could be extremely high.

Every medium someone selects will have upsides and downsides. Personally I think the digital transition has a ton more upsides then downsides; others disagree- Yay for me, too bad for them.

Also technically you still get the product you pay for. You still get the character builder, and your 5 updates a month. You just can't make use of it on your chosen computer system.

Do you have the right to not purchase it because you can't make use of all of what the price gets you- sure. But you really can't say you're not getting as much as a PC user gets. You are- Your subscription would get you just as much as mine does. You just can't make use of as much of it as I can on my PC.

Because you have a mac, and macs are lame.