Expanding Elsir Vale

Has anyone here expanded Elsir Vale from the Red Hand of Doom module and used it as a full-blown setting?

I ran RHoD for my group starting in 2007 and finished it about a year later. I originally planned to drop the Vale into my own homebrew and make it fit. At the conclusion of the module, the group owned Vrath Keep and controlled a small section of land around it. They were local heroes. They went on to a couple of other adventures in the Vale. Elements of my own homebrew never really made it into the adventures as they stayed in the Vale. Now at level 10-11, all of their adventures have been in Elsir Vale.

We are about to revive this campaign and rather than shoehorn the Vale into my unfinished homebrew, I am considering just expanding Elsir Vale into a more complete setting on its own. I believe I could quite easily map the areas around the Vale, thus expanding the campaign area. Also, there are plenty of adventure sites and opportunities on the map of the Vale that the PCs haven't yet touched.

I know that there are some 4E adventures in Dungeon that revolve around the Vale about 100 years after the events of RHoD and I believe there to be a map of a city and some lands west of the Vale. As I am running a 3.5 D&D campaign, would those adventures or the source material regarding Elsir Vale be useful to me?

Is there any other information out on the web or that anyone has worked on to expand the Vale? Or is the Vale simply not worthy of being expanded into a more complete setting? Thoughts?
 

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Well at the time it was released there were recommendations on where to put the adventure in both Ebberon and FR, so you could jsut crib the surroundings from there.
 

Personally, I replaced Brindol with Cauldron (SCAP) and reorganized the map a bit. I thoroughly enjoyed RHOD, and it's become one of my more entertaining settings to doodle in.

I found that fleshing out the one-paragraph descriptions of the other parts of the Vale helped immensely. Every town has some sort of tension involved with it, and that can easily make for a long-running campaign.
 

I know that there are some 4E adventures in Dungeon that revolve around the Vale about 100 years after the events of RHoD and I believe there to be a map of a city and some lands west of the Vale. As I am running a 3.5 D&D campaign, would those adventures or the source material regarding Elsir Vale be useful to me?
The bits of Scales of War that cover the Elsir Vale are in the early adventuers in the adventure path. However, there's nothing much to say the adventure has to be in the Vale - they could have set it anywhere.

I found them quite interesting, although they kind of contradict Red Hand of Doom in parts. For example, to the west is the dwarf city of Overlook, which I think is a cool place but probably ought to have got a mention in RHoD.

Anyway, because they are in early issues of Dungeon, they are free. Download them and look for yourself.
 

I know that there are some 4E adventures in Dungeon that revolve around the Vale about 100 years after the events of RHoD and I believe there to be a map of a city and some lands west of the Vale. As I am running a 3.5 D&D campaign, would those adventures or the source material regarding Elsir Vale be useful to me?

Is there any other information out on the web or that anyone has worked on to expand the Vale? Or is the Vale simply not worthy of being expanded into a more complete setting? Thoughts?

I think it is only like 10 years. I do not see why the source material wouldn't be useful, no matter what edition you play. Fluff is fluff, and the crunch can always be altered.
 

I think it is only like 10 years. I do not see why the source material wouldn't be useful, no matter what edition you play. Fluff is fluff, and the crunch can always be altered.

You are correct. I just checked out issue 156 and it does say it has been a decade. And yes, the fulff should be useable without much difficulty. The adventures themselves, altered or not, won't work though as they are geared towards much lower level PCs than my current group is.
 


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