Expedition to Undermountain Opinions?


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I bought the book the other day, and while i havent read every single page yet, its a bit meh..

Too many poor/boring encounters (especially level 3.. minotaurs, minotaurs and more minotaurs)

Also, it seems very much like Undermountain Light.. Ie the original one was deadly. If it had a 18 rating, this one would more be a PG-13 or something.

All in all, i felt that I wasted my money. For the record I own most of WotC books that arent campaign specific, and i rarely feel i waste my money that much.

And Halaster blew a spell, so to speak
 


Faraer said:
Barely. The "blank rooms" complaint is a complete crock -- what person who'd actually read or run Ruins of Undermountain would object to having some extra map areas pasted on to use or ignore as he/she prefers?

Extra map areas? D1 and D2 had extra map areas, but they were also self-contained adventures. Undermountain was huge maps with encounters dotted in a spaced-out fashion at about a 1-6 to 1-8 ratio of encounter to empty rooms. That's useless. Either sell a blank map or fill it in, don't put an encounter in a room and expect me to fill in the surrounding rooms to compliment it.

Giant dungeon maps are bad enough, almost empty giant dungeon maps are much worse.
 

YMMV, I guess. I like the representative encounter format; after all, we're not talking a set of rooms with a one-to-six fill-in ratio, but rather a core area of filled-in rooms with additional complexes beyond it that could be filled in using the same model or that could simply have additional entire pregen dungeons dropped in. It wasn't keyed area-blank-blank-blank-blank-blank-blank-keyed area; it was a big cluster of keyed areas with some thematic relation and then clusters of unlabeled areas with a potential thematic relation. Given all the additional adventure hooks in the boxed set, that just screamed "adventure potential" to me.
 
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Hi,

I ran quite a few adventures using the two Ruins of Undermountain boxed sets and I'm not surprised that one book can't detail every room in the dungeon.

What I am interested to know from someone who is famiilar with the 2e material, does the book update old encounters or is the content brand new? Also, does it use any of the recent Return to Undermountain website material?

What's putting me off slightly is one or two posters saying that the content is a bit dull.

Cheers


Richard
 



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