Fantastic Four movie: Dr. Doom announced!

[Tarrasque Wrangler]

Julian McMahon is great. I liked him in Charmed. If they write Doom as an understated, controlling genius with a dry sense of humor, McMahon will be perfect.

Yes, and they'll be betraying everything cool about the classic Dr. Doom. "Understated" he wasn't. I don't know anything about the "Ultimate revamp" of the character(s), but I've heard through AICN and other sites that they're turning him into a Lex Luthor clone. No Latveria, maybe no armor either.

So far Chiklis is the only name I've heard that made me go "hellzyeah".

 

[Mouseferatu]

I don't know anything about the "Ultimate revamp" of the character(s), but I've heard through AICN and other sites that they're turning him into a Lex Luthor clone. No Latveria, maybe no armor either.

No. Frickin'. Way.

No Latveria + no armor = no ticket sold here.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

No. Frickin'. Way.

No Latveria + no armor = no ticket sold here.

No doubt. If that's the case I'll just wait until I see it as a rental. Jeez, if they take away the armor and they take away the majestic royalty of Doom then they may as well forget it. Damn I hope this isn't true.

 

[Holy Bovine]

Well it is from aintitcoolnews they are not, IMO, a vast basin of truth. Speculation and rumour yes but not always reality. I'll withhold judgement until I see some trailers. What would Doom be without his armour and kingdom? I just can't bring myself to believe the producers would so screw up a character like this.

Maybe Ben Grimm will be made of ashphalt!

 

[Andre La Roche]

Here's why it's good to take stuff you find on AICN with a block of saltlick (as opposed to a single grain):

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0407/26/fantasticfour.htm

"There are ideas. We are looking into that right now. We are going to make sure we respect the look of Doctor Doom. At the same time, you guys know when you bring these comics to the screen, you have to make it look believable. I'll tell you one thing: the mask of Doctor Doom is going to be pretty awesome. It's going to reflect what you know Doctor Doom to look like. "

 

[Celtavian]

No. Frickin'. Way.

No Latveria + no armor = no ticket sold here.

I hope it isn't true, but I'm in agreement if it is.

Doctor Doom is one of the great villains in the Marvel Universe. He needs no alteration. This guy kind of looks like Victor Von Doom outside the armor. Hopefully he can do a good job inside the armor.

 

[Ranger REG]

Doctor Doom is one of the great villains in the Marvel Universe. He needs no alteration. This guy kind of looks like Victor Von Doom outside the armor. Hopefully he can do a good job inside the armor.

IOW, can he do the job of exuding evil the way Darth Vader did in the Episodes IV and V? Of course, one should note that Vader consists of two actors: one doing the voice and the physical actors in his customed armor.

Hmm. Speaking of armor, I wonder how it will differ from the comic book version? BTW, what is the origin of Dr. Doom's armor, if any?

 

[Staffan]

Hmm. Speaking of armor, I wonder how it will differ from the comic book version? BTW, what is the origin of Dr. Doom's armor, if any?

In the original FF, Doom was a college... well, friend is not the right word, but acquaintance of Reed Richards. Both were, of course, geniuses. Doom was making some sort of invention to travel to other dimensions (I think it had to do with getting his mother out of some demon's claws), and Richards saw the plans and pointed out some error that Doom, of course, ignored. Doom built the machine, tried to use it, and had it blow up in his face, giving him a noticable scar.

Doom then left and sought out some weirdo monks - I think in Tibet. He learned mystic stuff from them, and forged his armor. Being the impatient man he is, he refused to wait for the mask to cool down, putting it on while it was still red-hot, thus turning his scarred-but-still-OK face into a burned mess.

In the Ultimateverse, Victor van Damme (which was a name his family used to hide the implications of the von Doom name - the family apparently has ties to ol' Vlad the Impaler) was a kid genius just like Reed Richards and Susan Storm (well, late-teens anyway). They were working in a big government project on some sort of dimension-piercing apparatus. Van Damme had made some changes to the apparatus without Reed knowing about it, so when the machine was activated, Reed, Sue, van Damme, Reed's buddy Ben Grimm, and Sue's brother Johnny (and maybe one more person - see below) disappeared and were scattered across various places. In the process, they got weirdified - Ben Grimm turned into some sort of stony Thing, Johnny Storm got the ability to turn to flame, Sue Storm could turn invisible, and Reed Richards' body got a weird lack of fixed shape - classic elemental associations: Ben - Earth, Johnny - Fire, Susan - Air, and Reed - Water. Then we learn that van Damme has apparently turned into some sort of metallic monstrosity, and see hints that someone also turned into the Man-Thing. These two would then be Metal and Nature.

Ultimate Four #7 which showed Doom's background used to be online as a preview somewhere - ah, at http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/marvel/ultff/

Here are some of the relevant picture for the above story:
The people getting transferred, including Man-Thing: http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/marvel/ultff/page04.html
First full picture of Doom: http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/marvel/ultff/page22.html
Flashback to Victor van Damme being told by his father about his heritage: http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/marvel/ultff/page07.html

 

[Klaus]

In the original FF, Doom was a college... well, friend is not the right word, but acquaintance of Reed Richards. Both were, of course, geniuses. Doom was making some sort of invention to travel to other dimensions (I think it had to do with getting his mother out of some demon's claws), and Richards saw the plans and pointed out some error that Doom, of course, ignored. Doom built the machine, tried to use it, and had it blow up in his face, giving him a noticable scar.

Doom then left and sought out some weirdo monks - I think in Tibet. He learned mystic stuff from them, and forged his armor. Being the impatient man he is, he refused to wait for the mask to cool down, putting it on while it was still red-hot, thus turning his scarred-but-still-OK face into a burned mess.

In the Ultimateverse, Victor van Damme (which was a name his family used to hide the implications of the von Doom name - the family apparently has ties to ol' Vlad the Impaler) was a kid genius just like Reed Richards and Susan Storm (well, late-teens anyway). They were working in a big government project on some sort of dimension-piercing apparatus. Van Damme had made some changes to the apparatus without Reed knowing about it, so when the machine was activated, Reed, Sue, van Damme, Reed's buddy Ben Grimm, and Sue's brother Johnny (and maybe one more person - see below) disappeared and were scattered across various places. In the process, they got weirdified - Ben Grimm turned into some sort of stony Thing, Johnny Storm got the ability to turn to flame, Sue Storm could turn invisible, and Reed Richards' body got a weird lack of fixed shape - classic elemental associations: Ben - Earth, Johnny - Fire, Susan - Air, and Reed - Water. Then we learn that van Damme has apparently turned into some sort of metallic monstrosity, and see hints that someone also turned into the Man-Thing. These two would then be Metal and Nature.

Ultimate Four #7 which showed Doom's background used to be online as a preview somewhere - ah, at http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/marvel/ultff/

Here are some of the relevant picture for the above story:
The people getting transferred, including Man-Thing: http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/marvel/ultff/page04.html
First full picture of Doom: http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/marvel/ultff/page22.html
Flashback to Victor van Damme being told by his father about his heritage: http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/marvel/ultff/page07.html

Ugh! Is this what they did to the FF and Doom in the Ultimate line?

And mixing Chinese and Classic elements? What the--?

Chinese didn't consider Air to be an element, but rather a divine component (Wind). Their elements were Earth, Metal, Water, Wood and Fire.

Sometimes I think the Ultimate writer change things just for the sake of it...

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

Yes, and they'll be betraying everything cool about the classic Dr. Doom. "Understated" he wasn't. I don't know anything about the "Ultimate revamp" of the character(s), but I've heard through AICN and other sites that they're turning him into a Lex Luthor clone. No Latveria, maybe no armor either.

So far Chiklis is the only name I've heard that made me go "hellzyeah".

Yes, Doom is the kind of over the top madman who tapes himself talking to himself and others, so "every utterance of Doom is recorded for posterity". He rants and does nothign without putting the kind of royal flair on it that makes the action worthy of Doom. They need to read FF#84-86, 246, 247, & 258 to get the feel of Doom. He isn't subtle unless he absolutely has to be, and even then it's difficult. He is grandiose as is fitting for a King & self proclaimed smartest man alive. Gosh Darn they better not screw up Doom. If he isn't done right with the flair and majesty that makes him so much more than Lex Luthor or any mad scientist clone.