Fantasy Genetics: Half-breeds

[The Sigil]

Here's a lineage stumper:

What would you call a character whose grandparents were a Half-Elf and Celestial on one side (resulting in a Half-Celestial templated Half-Elf) and a Half-Orc and a Dragon on the other side (resulting in a Half-Dragon templated Half-Orc)?

Lineage would be 1/4 Dragon, 1/4 Celestial, 1/4 Human, 1/8 Elf, and 1/8 Orc.

Name that bad boy!!

That would be a NIMCYD...

Not In My Campaign You Don't.

Seriously, though...

Let's start with this question:

What do you get when you mate a half-elf with an elf? An elf. Acutal blood is 3/4 elf, 1/4 human. Obviously, 1/4 is not enough to affect a "base creature."
What do you get when you mate a half-elf with a human? A human.

What do you get when you mate a half-elf with a half-orc?

A creature that is 1/2 human, 1/4 elf, and 1/4 orc. As shown above, the 1/4 is negligible, so we get a "human."

My next question becomes, "what would you call the offspring of a half-fiend human and a (normal) human?" I would tend to lean toward, "fiendish human." Mate a fiendish human with a normal human and get a planetouched human. Mate a planetouched with a normal human and get a human (takes longer to get fiendish blood "out of your system" than elvish/orcish blood). Same holds for celestials instead of fiends (I chose fiends because sometimes the template names of half-celestial and celestial(ish) are more confusing than half-fiend and fiendish).

IOW, a first-generation planar creature (i.e., a native) is an outsider. A second-generation is "half-fiend". A third generation is "fiendish." A fourth generation is "plane-touched".

Since there is no corresponding template for "dragonish", I would suggest that dragonic heritage drops out of the equation at 1/4 (2 generations) also.

So, let's look agani at the base creature you suggested... ignoring templates, he comes from a half-elf and half-orc. That makes him a human.

He is 2 generations removed from a celestial, so he receives the celestial(ish) template. He is 2 generations removed from a dragon, so his heritage drops out of consideration as far as abilities (looks may change).

Conclusion:
The off-spring of a half-celestial templated half-elf and a half-dragon templated half-orc is...

A celestial templated human.

--The Sigil

 

[Mr Fidgit]

planetouched? or just touched?

 

[garyh]

Re: Re: Fantasy Genetics: Half-breeds

Conclusion:
The off-spring of a half-celestial templated half-elf and a half-dragon templated half-orc is...

A celestial templated human.

--The Sigil

Solid logic Sigil. Makes good sense.

 

[Xarlen]

Actually, I would call a second generation dragon a Sorceror.

Though, I never thought of applying the Fiendish template, I like that. I guess it could also work with Half-elementals, the Elemental template, and Genasi. However, I would think that a planetouched could immerge from further down the line then just 4th; simply because I think it would be interesting if both parents had no initial signs (or knowledge) of their extra-planar heraditary, and the child showing signs.

Perhaps this could be possible if, let us say the tiefling is z, who's parents are y. Thus:

y y
\ /
Z

Now, imagine if one of Y's parents were fiendish. Let's call the fiendish parent X, and the human parent x.

X x x X
\ / \ /
y y
\ /
Z

Thus, the Extra-planar gene could be recessive, but if encountered in both parents, it becomes the dominant gene.

Now, I'm pondering crafting an ECL +1 of a Dragon-blooded, that would follow the same as above. Likely a +2 to Str and Charisma, or +2 to Cha and Int (Aasmir get +2 to Cha and Wis, so it's fair), a resistant to a paticular element 5 (Tieflings and Aasmir have 2 or three energy resistances), immune to Paralysis and Sleep, Type turns to Dragon, and likely a +2 to Nat Armor. I was considering a spell-like ability akin to their color, but that'd be too much.

 

[garyh]

The use of the Celestial and Fiendish templates is a good idea. I'd love to see a "Draconic" template.

*hint*

 

[Xarlen]

The use of the Celestial and Fiendish templates is a good idea. I'd love to see a "Draconic" template.

*hint*

See my last paragraph.

 

[garyh]

See my last paragraph.

I think while I was posting, you edited it from "I'm thinking about..." to "This is it...". I was asking for a "final" version, which you edited yours to be.

It's all your fault. Really.

 

[Xarlen]

Oh. Well, it's not really a 'template' so much as an ECL race presented like the Aasmir and Tiefling.

Do you mean Draconic, like the Fiendish or Celestial?

 

[garyh]

Oh. Well, it's not really a 'template' so much as an ECL race presented like the Aasmir and Tiefling.

Do you mean Draconic, like the Fiendish or Celestial?

Oh, I see, you made a Dragontouched race, not a template. The race is spiffy, and I'd play it. A Draconic template would also be interesting.

 

[The Sigil]

Hey!

Actually, I would call a second generation dragon a Sorceror.

Though, I never thought of applying the Fiendish template, I like that. I guess it could also work with Half-elementals, the Elemental template, and Genasi. However, I would think that a planetouched could immerge from further down the line then just 4th; simply because I think it would be interesting if both parents had no initial signs (or knowledge) of their extra-planar heraditary, and the child showing signs.

I wasn't saying a planetouched child *couldn't* be later than 4th (you'll note I didn't say "fifth generation=nothing"), merely that 4th will be no better than plane-touched.

I also like the idea of a draconic (dragon-ish) template.

--The Sigil