Fantasy Sex Roleplaying Game Releases October 2003

[Alzrius]

Curse you! You must've changed the spelling before I could reply and condemn you!

I was reading back through Death of the Minotaur, and noticed that I had misspelled the name, so I went back and changed it. Better luck next time!

 

[fusangite]

It seems that those who defend this absurd new publication continue to be able only to find precedent in fantasy literature. D&D is a kind of game; it is not a kind of literature. The only example of a game with sexual content that anyone has cited is strip poker. Strip poker is a perfect example -- no one sells strip poker sets/decks.

There are sexual games people play; there are games people buy. I see no intersection between these categories. Why would we want D&D of all games to be the first to cross this boundary?

I have yet to hear a reason for wanting D&D, of all games, to set this precedent. Yet there are many reasons for opposing this. To note a few:
(a) the reputation of the game
(b) the danger of creating irreversibly bad first impressions of the game
(c) the danger of creating an uncomfortable, sexually-charged dynamic at adolescent gaming tables around the world

 

[John Crichton]

The Hindus have a belief relating to a man's procreative fluids being related to imagination and creativity. When a man has sex, he releases that creative energy, which must again "build up" over time. As such, an artist, engineer or other "creative" type would practice abstainance during the pursuit of some goal in order to have a strong creative energy flow.

No, no, no. You've got it all wrong, silly. What you are talking about is from that episode of Seinfeld where George....

 

[Bendris Noulg]

It seems that those who defend this absurd new publication continue to be able only to find precedent in fantasy literature.
D&D is a kind of game; it is not a kind of literature.

Without the literature that inspired it (which, I'm not sorry to say, includes a bit of Erotic Fantasy), D&D would not exist. So, no, it's not literature, but many people get into fantasy gaming because of literature and myth (even your own screen name is from such)

The only example of a game with sexual content that anyone has cited is strip poker. Strip poker is a perfect example -- no one sells strip poker sets/decks. There are sexual games people play; there are games people buy. I see no intersection between these categories. Why would we want D&D of all games to be the first to cross this boundary?

It's not:

http://www.bridalshowerfun.com/adultgames.htm

I have yet to hear a reason for wanting D&D, of all games, to set this precedent. Yet there are many reasons for opposing this. To note a few:
(a) the reputation of the game

Already trashed and muddied. I've dealt with it for over 20 years; Grow a thicker skin.

(b) the danger of creating irreversibly bad first impressions of the game

It's an OGL product, seperate from D&D. However, see C.

(c) the danger of creating an uncomfortable, sexually-charged dynamic at adolescent gaming tables around the world

Already there. Can't count how many really bad Succubus encounters I had to deal with before I was 15 by DMs that didn't have a clue. While I've been spared the pain, I'm sure there are plenty of Xenaphiles out there with some horrid games running (not to be mistaken for the Xenaphiles out there with good games going, mind you ).

 

[Bendris Noulg]

No, no, no. You've got it all wrong, silly. What you are talking about is from that episode of Seinfeld where George....

Afraid I don't get to watch Sienfeld, ol' chap (it's the kid's Disney Movie Time Slot). I got this information from a book of Chakra Magic when I was researching Middle-East Religions to add some depth to my Al'Qadim region.

 

[John Crichton]

Afraid I don't get to watch Sienfeld, ol' chap (it's the kid's Disney Movie Time Slot). I got this information from a book of Chakra Magic when I was researching Middle-East Religions to add some depth to my Al'Qadim region.

Oh, I totally believe you and have read of similar things. Gotta love histories of various cultures. I think they are facinating.

I was just looking to inject a little good natured humor (as opposed to stating my opinion on this, which others have mirrored better than I could say). And I wasted a perfectly good Seinfeld reference. Dang.

 

[Alzrius]

It seems that those who defend this absurd new publication continue to be able only to find precedent in fantasy literature.

Who cares about precedent? It's not like this needs to have a basis in previous works to be allowed to go forward. That said, I've pointed out that this is not the first work about sex and D&D, to say nothing of how other people have pointed out that this is not the first RPG supplement about sex either.

D&D is a kind of game; it is not a kind of literature. The only example of a game with sexual content that anyone has cited is strip poker. Strip poker is a perfect example -- no one sells strip poker sets/decks.

You're right. Card games based around sex are something we've never seen before because nobody cares about such things. *cough*XXXenophile*cough*

There are sexual games people play; there are games people buy. I see no intersection between these categories.

Just because you do not see something does not mean it does not exist. Fortune-cookie reading for the day.

Why would we want D&D of all games to be the first to cross this boundary?

Firstly, it isnt. Secondly, why not? Believe it or not, some people can mention "sex" without breaking into giggles.

I have yet to hear a reason for wanting D&D, of all games, to set this precedent. Yet there are many reasons for opposing this. To note a few:
(a) the reputation of the game

Because slaying those demons and devils and such Vile Darkness makes us look too too good. If we can survive that, one isolated product won't hurt us.

(b) the danger of creating irreversibly bad first impressions of the game

Because in this day and age, anything sexual is labelled under Very Bad Things.

(c) the danger of creating an uncomfortable, sexually-charged dynamic at adolescent gaming tables around the world

You're right...from now on those poor kids won't ever be able to pick up a pair of d6's at a Monopoly game without feeling hot under the collar after this...

Seriously, this will kill the industry about as badly as the BoVD did. The doomsaying is becoming passe.

 

[Bendris Noulg]

I was just looking to inject a little good natured humor (as opposed to stating my opinion on this, which others have mirrored better than I could say). And I wasted a perfectly good Seinfeld reference. Dang.

No you didn't... I've seen enough episodes to imagine what that was like...

Let me guess... George was trying to do something. Kramer gave him some not-quite-accurate advise. George is going celebate (not much of a real problem for him). But then meets this girl...

Or...

Just occured to me... Are you refering to the Cosmo episode?

 

[Dark Jezter]

No you didn't... I've seen enough episodes to imagine what that was like...

Let me guess... George was trying to do something. Kramer gave him some not-quite-accurate advise. George is going celebate (not much of a real problem for him). But then meets this girl...

Or...

Just occured to me... Are you refering to the Cosmo episode?

No no, he's talking about the episode where George swears off sex in all forms, and he suddenly becomes super-intelligent. Not to mention articulate, charming, and witty.

 

[Bendris Noulg]

Oh, missed that one... Sounds excellent.

Grrrr...