Wolfspirit
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*thwacks his head* Or it would be easy (hypotheticaly speaking) to create a program to do that automagicaly... check your email, I've got some questions.
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(making 'ooo' 'ooo' noises)
my friend and I are php and mysql developers(in our spare time). My first questions, have you thought about storing the stories within a database? would make your linking problems disapear instantly. But your host would have to have a mysql db attached to the website, wich luckily is fairly common now.
We could be easily talked into helping out if you are interested. as one of our personal projects was the compilation of Sagiro's story hour for our personal usage.
RX
(making 'ooo' 'ooo' noises)
my friend and I are php and mysql developers(in our spare time). My first questions, have you thought about storing the stories within a database? would make your linking problems disapear instantly. But your host would have to have a mysql db attached to the website, wich luckily is fairly common now.
We could be easily talked into helping out if you are interested. as one of our personal projects was the compilation of Sagiro's story hour for our personal usage.
RX
Ashy
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RingXero has the solution - this is by far what I would recommend, and it will make you VERY happy in the long run - you will be amazed at the possibilities of expansion and flexibilty that sql and php (or any other dynamic web language, such as Cold Fusion) will give you. 
Sounds like you have a couple of enthuastic volunteers here as well, and you CAN'T beat that with a stick!
Sounds like you have a couple of enthuastic volunteers here as well, and you CAN'T beat that with a stick! 
carpedavid
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As a professional web developer, I agree with both RingXero and Ashy. A database driven site (or at least story section) is definitely the way to go.
Whether you go the linux/unix route and use MySQL and PHP or the MS route with pretty much any database and ASP (my specialty), you're going to be extremely happy in the long run.
For what it's worth, I'd certainly be willing to lend some coding skills or moral support to the cause, if needed.
-DMG
Edit - oops, forgot a space
Whether you go the linux/unix route and use MySQL and PHP or the MS route with pretty much any database and ASP (my specialty), you're going to be extremely happy in the long run.
For what it's worth, I'd certainly be willing to lend some coding skills or moral support to the cause, if needed.
-DMG
Edit - oops, forgot a space
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Pelosan Emperor
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I'm also a professional web developer, and I have used MySQL/PHP solutions for several projects. It may be a little extra work up front, but the long-term usefulness significanly outweighs the effort.
Another plus: This kind of a solution also lends itself to separating the appearance of the page from the data, so you can alter the "look & feel" of the page rather easily... and usually in one or two places rather than dozens or hundreds of pages.
Another plus: This kind of a solution also lends itself to separating the appearance of the page from the data, so you can alter the "look & feel" of the page rather easily... and usually in one or two places rather than dozens or hundreds of pages.
digitaldark
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cthuluftaghn
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Well, with our site, we intend to portray the kind of tone you seem to be looking for.
The main site is http://home.cfl.rr.com/rtttoee, which is actually our D20 site. Follow the link to Cthulu Ftaghn's Campaigns (http://home.cfl.rr.com/rtttoee/cthulu.htm) and I think that's more along the lines of what you're talking about??
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The main site is http://home.cfl.rr.com/rtttoee, which is actually our D20 site. Follow the link to Cthulu Ftaghn's Campaigns (http://home.cfl.rr.com/rtttoee/cthulu.htm) and I think that's more along the lines of what you're talking about??
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Wolfspirit
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Hey, cthuluftaghn, you need to get rid of the ',' after your first link.
Yeah, like I said, php is probably the more obvious way to go. It just depends on if the server supports it. *shrugs*
Yeah, like I said, php is probably the more obvious way to go. It just depends on if the server supports it. *shrugs*
Sialia
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Wow.
You guys are the best.
I am blown away.
My mind is expanded to new possibilities.
I may never sleep again. So much to be done!
Much to assimilate--a few days to think about things before I decide what to do.
You're right about the database, of course--that makes perfect sense.
I'm signed up to take XML databases in the spring, but I haven't started the class yet and I don't know exactly what it's going to cover.
Working on this project gave me a lot of fodder for my xhtml class this past fall (same sadistic professor)--it was a lot easier to get the hang of the coursework having some content I cared enough to manage.
So what might happen would be a first version of the site mostly in xhtml and Javascript, and a later version to be debuted this summer with databases. As I did with this, I'm allowed to ask for advice while I'm taking classes, but I have to do the actual coding myself until the grades are in. Then we can rip the thing apart and do it better. Also a learning experience for me.
OK, now I will share my humble draft with you so that the apprentice can learn from the masters. Go ahead and beat on me. I can take it.
Note the following:
Piratecat and the Defenders haven't seen this yet or formally approved any of the content. (Uh, hi guys?)
There ought to be an introduction on the first page where the big ugly graphic is now.
The big ugly graphic needs to be replaced (oh, if only I had Photoshop! Any volunteers for that chore? Ought to be a sun face, probably something we can turn into a image map. The drawing is mine and we can play with it all we want, if we want, but I have no software that will let me turn it into a real computer graphic instead of a scanned doodle, if you follow.)
There maybe ought to be some mention of Piratecat somewhere on the site?
Many acknowledgements are missing
The format ought to be titles and synopses as shown on the Early Years page, clickable to full story chunk.
The Early Years isn't clickable yet.
The pages that have clickable links (Eversink, White Kingdom) don't have full titles and synopses as yet.
The links in More Miscellaneous Travels are from raw emails and haven't really been turned into proper story telling as yet.
Player credits/bios might be added, if the players want to do them.
More PC illustrations and descriptions are needed, and the descriptions that are up are only placeholders.
There ought to be at least one link to EN World, right?
The PDF's should be included for those who want to be able to print out the stories.
The search function worked fine on the school server, but I haven't hooked it up for the new server yet.
We're shy of a lot of episode titles. I could really use some ideas for better episode titles.
Once we get the story all in, I wnat to add a place for homebrewed spells and monsters, etc.
I've been having trouble uploading one of the sound files, so don't be surprised if the big one is busted.
There's a bug in the header for the patheon that breaks the dropdown menus. Working on it. Meanwhile, manually go to another page and the menus will work again.
I have more things to upload in the way of maps, jpgs of handwritten documents, etc. but those will have to wait a bit until I get the story more under control.
Advice about what else is missing greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
http://www.piratecat.info/spira/def1.htm
You guys are the best.
I am blown away.
My mind is expanded to new possibilities.
I may never sleep again. So much to be done!
Much to assimilate--a few days to think about things before I decide what to do.
You're right about the database, of course--that makes perfect sense.
I'm signed up to take XML databases in the spring, but I haven't started the class yet and I don't know exactly what it's going to cover.
Working on this project gave me a lot of fodder for my xhtml class this past fall (same sadistic professor)--it was a lot easier to get the hang of the coursework having some content I cared enough to manage.
So what might happen would be a first version of the site mostly in xhtml and Javascript, and a later version to be debuted this summer with databases. As I did with this, I'm allowed to ask for advice while I'm taking classes, but I have to do the actual coding myself until the grades are in. Then we can rip the thing apart and do it better. Also a learning experience for me.
OK, now I will share my humble draft with you so that the apprentice can learn from the masters. Go ahead and beat on me. I can take it.
Note the following:
Piratecat and the Defenders haven't seen this yet or formally approved any of the content. (Uh, hi guys?)
There ought to be an introduction on the first page where the big ugly graphic is now.
The big ugly graphic needs to be replaced (oh, if only I had Photoshop! Any volunteers for that chore? Ought to be a sun face, probably something we can turn into a image map. The drawing is mine and we can play with it all we want, if we want, but I have no software that will let me turn it into a real computer graphic instead of a scanned doodle, if you follow.)
There maybe ought to be some mention of Piratecat somewhere on the site?
Many acknowledgements are missing
The format ought to be titles and synopses as shown on the Early Years page, clickable to full story chunk.
The Early Years isn't clickable yet.
The pages that have clickable links (Eversink, White Kingdom) don't have full titles and synopses as yet.
The links in More Miscellaneous Travels are from raw emails and haven't really been turned into proper story telling as yet.
Player credits/bios might be added, if the players want to do them.
More PC illustrations and descriptions are needed, and the descriptions that are up are only placeholders.
There ought to be at least one link to EN World, right?
The PDF's should be included for those who want to be able to print out the stories.
The search function worked fine on the school server, but I haven't hooked it up for the new server yet.
We're shy of a lot of episode titles. I could really use some ideas for better episode titles.
Once we get the story all in, I wnat to add a place for homebrewed spells and monsters, etc.
I've been having trouble uploading one of the sound files, so don't be surprised if the big one is busted.
There's a bug in the header for the patheon that breaks the dropdown menus. Working on it. Meanwhile, manually go to another page and the menus will work again.
I have more things to upload in the way of maps, jpgs of handwritten documents, etc. but those will have to wait a bit until I get the story more under control.
Advice about what else is missing greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
http://www.piratecat.info/spira/def1.htm
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