Favorite addition to the MM2?

[Hakkenshi]

I don't understand why so many people are up in arms about the Gem Dragons. Honestly... The chromatics are the evil, the metallics are the good, and the gems are the neutral dragons. Always have been... Some of the OTHER dragons could have been done without, but the gems fit right into the niche...

I think the main problem people have with the Gem Dragons is that their art SUCKS.

Compare that to the Dragons that Lockwood painted for MM1...

 

[Nightstorm]

Where is the list of monsters at? Tell me! tell me!

 

[thundershot]

Okay, I agree with the art... but I don't really use the art as a guideline on whether a creature should even be in a book. I'm GLAD to have them in a book all statted out. (rather than the printed out thing I have now)


Thanks
Chris

 

[Phowett]

I'm glad they included more prehistoric animals in this one, like the some more dinosaurs, the megalodon, the dire elk, and the giant sloth. I was greatly disappointed with the Leviathan though. I'd rather see the Leviathan as a big sea serpent, not a big dumb whale.

 

[Phowett]

Where is the list of monsters at? Tell me! tell me!

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article9.asp?x=dnd/ag/ag20020816g&p=mm2&g=full

 

[Carnifex]

The Arcanoloth, definitely, though the yugoloth art in the MM2 sucks...

 

[Moon_Goddess]

Thri-Kreen!!!!

 

[BOZ]

I just want to see how they handled "Monster of Legend"

think it's going to be like the one from planescape?

 

[MeepoTheMighty]

I'm glad they included more prehistoric animals in this one, like the some more dinosaurs, the megalodon, the dire elk, and the giant sloth. I was greatly disappointed with the Leviathan though. I'd rather see the Leviathan as a big sea serpent, not a big dumb whale.

Job 41:1 Can you draw out Leviathan with a hook? Or his tongue with a cord which you let down? Can you put a hook into his nose? Or bore his jaw through with a thorn? Will he make many supplications unto you? Will he speak soft words unto you? Will he make a covenant with you? Will you take him for a servant for ever? Will you play with him as with a bird? Or wilt you bind him for thy maidens? Shall the companions make a banquet of him? Shall they part him among the merchants? Can you fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears? Lay your hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more. Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him? None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before Me? Who has prevented Me, that I should repay him? Whatsoever is under the whole heaven is Mine. I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion. Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle? Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about. His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal. One is so near to another, that no air can come between them. They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered. By his neesings a light shines, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. Out of his nostrils goes smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron. His breath kindles coals, and a flame goes out of his mouth. In his neck remains strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him. The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved. His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone. When he raises up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves. The sword of him that lays at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon. He esteems iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood. The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble. Darts are counted as stubble: he laughs at the shaking of a spear. Sharp stones are under him: he spreads sharp pointed things upon the mire. makes the deep to boil like a pot: he makes the sea like a pot of ointment. He makes a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary. Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear. He beholds all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

Sure sounds to me like they're talking about a whale. A whale with damage reduction, nonetheless. A lot of the confusion about Leviathan being a serpent comes from the Hebrew word
livyathan which means "coiled." Most modernish writers, tend to take this view as well, though a few references to him as a serpent show up now and then.

 

[Desdichado]

I always like new outsiders. New fiends and celestials rock. I'm glad there seems to be a good collection of them. And with Fiend Folio around the corner...

Does it occasionally seem like Planescape has actually become the default setting rather than Greyhawk?