Feats: PHB vs Essentials

[Aulirophile]

I kind of like the idea that a Human could take both feats at 1st level and have a +3 to saves right away. Add those feats with Stubborn Survivor (Forgotten Realms Player's Guide) at 2nd level and a Human could then have a +5 to saves when they're out of actions points.

That's an extreme case, but I have seen enough of my players take that approach to playing Humans that I wouldn't want to take that away from them.

For the cost of three feats it is still powerful, but then again some races have pretty extreme save bonuses. Warforged can 'take 10' on death saves for instance.

C.I.D.

Both feats qualify themselves as a Feat Bonus, they wouldn't stack. Either would stack with Stubborn Survivor though, which is untyped.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Right now both are feat bonuses... an errata to a racial bonus would come in handy (because it would now stack with other feat bonuses to saves)

Actually i like the new defense approach:

it really gives a choice for chars:
One feat for +1/2/3 to all defenses or 3 feats for superior abilities and +2/3/4 to defenses...
quite elegant.