Feeling short changed by 4th Ed.

[Imaro]

Teaching a new DM how to run the game is more important than teaching him how to make new stuff for it. He needs that baseline of knowing how the system functions before he can start wrenching on it. The DMG 1 is the guide to running the game, just as it should be.

I don't see why it couldn't do both...Oh yeah because WotC decided it should be the same price as the PHB but have almost 100 less pages.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

You seem to be assigning an awful lot of intent and motivation to me that doesn't exist in the post I made. Last time I checked, that was against the forum rules.

Irony. Read my above post.

 

[Cadfan]

In 3e, a fighter with an ax is identical in all ways to a fighter with a sword, except in a minor detail of his critical hit math that actually comes out to the same thing in the long term.

In 4e, this is not the case.

I don't know what the final conclusion ought to be with all this counting up options and whatnot, but I do know that this should count for something.

 

[The Little Raven]

No, you don't. Re-read my post. I said the opposite. Making assumptions about what you expect me to say had lead you to being stupid.

It seems I misread that part of your post, and swapped 4e and 3e in that sentence.

 

[delericho]

on second thought, never mind.

 

[The Little Raven]

I don't see why it couldn't do both...Oh yeah because WotC decided it should be the same price as the PHB but have almost 100 less pages.

I'd suggest you learn about how you can reduce the price of a product because of volume. In this case, why the PHB can be the same price as smaller books, because it sells significantly more copies than every other book.

 

[The Little Raven]

A build is a selection of powers, right?

And class features, and other things.

If "I can't cast spells of <school X>, but get a bonus with spells of <school Y>," counts as a separate class, then getting a bonus to two-handed weapons or one-handed weapons counts, or choosing between ranged combat and two-weapon fighting counts.

 

[The Little Raven]

Irony. Read my above post.

I don't recall assigning any intent or motivation to you. Did I call you a fanboy of some kind, or suggest that you're an idiot or something, like you did to me?

 

[Fifth Element]

I don't see why it couldn't do both...Oh yeah because WotC decided it should be the same price as the PHB but have almost 100 less pages.

Compare the number of DMGs expected to be sold, versus the number of PHBs expected to be sold. Spread the overhead for each book over the number of each book, and this gives you the reason for the price differential per page.

Economics made the decision more than WotC did.

 

[Imaro]

I'd suggest you learn about how you can reduce the price of a product because of volume. In this case, why the PHB can be the same price as smaller books, because it sells significantly more copies than every other book.

I guess WotC just learned about it this year as well, since the 3.5 books don't have this disparity... just something else we got less of in 4e.