Fellowship of the Witching Hour OOC Thread (Full)

[Dire Lemming]

I'm personally a bit confused. You seem to think that interest in the occult is not enough to join a club based around sharing your interest in the occult with other people. At least for Adam. But because Arabella has no ancillary details to her background she somehow fits the game better.

I asked you how the other two characters ended up joining this little club and you just repeated what you said earlier about why they might want to join if they learned of it.

I said agreed with you that I liked your idea of the library being further motivation for Adam to join the fellowship and suggest he could have even started it... and then you pretty much just repeat yourself...

You seem to be telling me that being interested in the occult isn't enough to get together with a bunch of like minded people and discuss your interests. That I need to have a gimick like the llibrary, a role. Then you go on to tell me how you hate the meta-concept of roles....

What do you want?

I'll try to just right out a long description of all my ideas put together, how about that?

Adam has acquired this occult library over time due to his interest in those subjects and when he heard about an occult-themed inn nearby he decided to visit it. He liked the place, and even more surprising he found out that the owner was Samantha Gilman, whom he has had a long and complex relationship with. He decided to come back some more, hoping to maybe get together with her or something, but at least to keep an eye on her, as she seemed different than the upbeat woman he once knew.

He found out that the Inn wasn't doing that great and told Sam about his collection of book, then together they formed the idea of the fellowship, that would hopefully bring in more members by word of mouth. They also posted some new advertisements and gradually Arabella and later Lucean showed up and there we go.

How's that?

 

[Dlsharrock]

Ok Dire, forget about it then.

 

[greenstar]

I can see Sam having being interested in the strange. After the Bermuda incident she might become interested in finding out what happened and when she found all the occult stuff in her attic or wherever she got the idea to turn it into the Witching Hour bar and begin a group to talk about the strange. I don't see any problem with Adam except you need to figure out exactly what his relationship with Sam is. He could just be interested in that stuff and heard about the Witching Hour bar and Sam and became the first member or something. I don't know why Phillip LeGraid became a member.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Last one to the party

Hey everyone. Looks like I might be the last to join the party. I had some unexpected issues which I have worked out.

In anycase we still have room for one more?

 

[Dlsharrock]

Hi Majic
Welcome to the game I assume this is Patrick James O'Doherty, brawler and lover of the liquor?

I'm hoping to start the game shortly. If you could let me know that you're happy with the character background you provided by email I'll send you a character sheet. Alternatively you can roll up your own stats if feel more comfortable doing so.

Some players have chosen to explore their character's background in this thread. Please also feel free to do so, noting where appropriate if a part of your background is in character (ie, something Patty would discuss with other PCs in the bar) or OOC (you're discussing it here but players shouldn't introduce it as an in game element). You can, if you prefer, do a mixture of the two and post the OOC stuff to me and anything the other investigators would know to this forum.

 

[Dire Lemming]

Ok Dire, forget about it then.

I don't want you to feel snubbed, I just have no idea what you're trying to convince me of.

Kook, I like the idea of Sam and Adam having had a romantic relationship.

They broke it off, but I'm not sure why. I like the idea of Sam breaking it off because she seems to have a better reason and it sort of ties in with everything else later better.

Then, pretty much everything in that post you made that I responded to by saying that we should use all of it except the contradictory part at the end.

Here.

Now let me see what I can do about understanding Adam and Sam's relationship better...

First off, so the game is not slowed down. Whatever their relationship, Sam and Adam are good friends and won't hinder the group with any kind of spat. I would assume their good friendship would actually speed the group's actions along. In game terms, this subplot takes a distant back seat to the main game.

OK, to work...

I assume Sam was found by her powerful birth family very soon after the accident. It is amazing how much power and command the Gilmans have over the seas, especially Bermuda. It could be that the Gilmans had Sam all the way to Arkham before most of her American friends and family knew of it. The US government might have been slow to release details of the incident to the media.

In short, no matter how devoted Adam was to his friend (and I assume that they are devoted to each other, no matter how badly any romance turned out), Adam may simply not have known before it was too late.

Don't forget, Sam volunteered to be sent to Arkham Asylum, believing herself to be delusional. With Sam's outright consent, the committal process was probably sped up. After leaving Arkham Asylum, Sam may have stayed in Arkham partly because of Adam, in addition to looking after the inn.

As far as whether they knew each other or not before Bermuda, I must admit I went ahead and jumped the gun and assumed that they did. Reunions are more charged than meetings for dramatics purposes (IMO). Casablanca, another 1941 production, worked so much better for me because it was a reunion after trauma (don't forget the classic tear-soaked letter in the rain, gets me every time).

I do like your suggestions on how the two might have gotten together and then broken up. True to form, trying to ground Sam would only make her more determined (and again echoes her earlier relationship with her family).

If Sam was Adam's 'first and last,' it could be that Adam was Sam's inamorata as well. Her crew member romance may have been a subconscious defiant rebound (not that she wouldn't have felt just as guilty, if not worse. Her misguided pique may have got the poor guy killed as he would have had no other real reason to be on the plane).

It could also be that Adam's inventions kept the plane together longer than any other plane could have lasted. Perhaps several other planes were simply destroyed (of course, this is up to David as he is the only one to know the real reason for the crash). In which case, Sam would have to admit not only was Sam wrong about being utterly reckless but that Adam, via his inventions, saved her life. If so, she would feel a terrible mix of guilt and gratitude regarding Adam.


Now, if Adam and Sam had met each other after Bermuda, Sam would react to Adam as she would to her perceptions of his inventions (from unlikely disappointment to utter gratitude). A slow romance could then have started. It would have to be slow given Sam's shattered heart.

Let me stop here and hear what you think, DL. I've no problem RP-ing Adam and Sam's relationship (with David's permission and not to the detriment of the game).

Looking forward to anyone's feedback...

Gerry

 

[Lucean]

Phillip has a reason for joining the group, but as he is extremely hesitant of even speaking of it. So I decided not to post it here, but rather come out during the gaming. I hope that's alrigth with everyone. I did send the background to David, that included that section. I hope it was alright.

 

[Dire Lemming]

You know, given all these new developements in Adam's character and his relationship with Sam it kind of throws a wrench in the whole using her as a test subject for his experimental Bra thing...

 

[Dlsharrock]

Dire Lemming:

If I confused you, I apologise.
If I have repeated myself, then I apologise if covering the same point has in some way offended you, frustrated you or added to your confusion.
If you feel that I am somehow attacking your characterisation of Adam, please rest assured that this is not my intention. However, if that's how you have interpreted things as a result of something I wrote, then with my hand on my heart, I apologise.

However,
the tone of your last message was unecessarily hostile. I didn't like it. In my games, and therefore in any thread related to my games, be that IC or OOC like this one, everybody is entitled to their opinion, provided their opinion is delivered in a friendly, non-confrontational manner.

I'd like to know what you think of suggestions I make, but I won't respond to animosity with anything but dismissal, if that.

Perhaps if you could reword your message, leaving out the hostility this time, then I'll respond accordingly and where possible I'll do my best to clear up moot points, and this time I'll try not to repeat myself. Otherwise, I think the matter is best dropped.

 

[Dire Lemming]

I"m sorry for my tone, I shouldn't have let my frustration get the better of me.

Well the first thing is that you said Adam and Sam don't have a reason to be at the witching hour but the way I see it they're the only ones that do. I actually had a reason to be there in the first place. I guess now that point is moot though.

The second thing was that you seemed to be implying that Arabella's lack of extra details made her fit better into the game and made her a better character.

I really like the the setup between Adam and Sam I don't really understand what the problem is.