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Crothian said:
of course it does, like it or not 1e is Gary Gygax's game and who is better to judge if you are playing his game? Now, it doesn't matter if you are or not, it didn't stop anyone that I know from using House Rules.
But referring to 3e, it's not true. It's not Gygax's game, eventhough he started it.
 

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Jdvn1 said:
But referring to 3e, it's not true. It's not Gygax's game, eventhough he started it.

I know, thus why I made sure to mention it was 1e. Its a comopletely different game these days. People think they know better then the game designers.
 

Crothian said:
I know, thus why I made sure to mention it was 1e. Its a comopletely different game these days. People think they know better then the game designers.
Some do, maybe, but I think most people have houserules because they prefer a different feel to the game. Maybe they want character to be more powerful or less powerful, or they want different abilities to be easier or tougher... it's not that they think they know better than the game designers, they just have a different product in mind.
 

Jdvn1 said:
Some do, maybe, but I think most people have houserules because they prefer a different feel to the game. Maybe they want character to be more powerful or less powerful, or they want different abilities to be easier or tougher... it's not that they think they know better than the game designers, they just have a different product in mind.

That is true, many people do house rule to try to make square peg fit into a round whole. Many times though they are better of finding a game that fits what they want.
 

Crothian said:
That is true, many people do house rule to try to make square peg fit into a round whole. Many times though they are better of finding a game that fits what they want.
Very true, but many people don't know their options or don't want to buy new books...

A guy I was gaming with last year starting roleplaying in the 80s using his own system. Kind of neat, but unique. Most people just stick to what they have.
 


Crothian said:
and people wonder why the industry struggles
I get the impression that the people who wonder why the industry struggles are the same people that know what their options are and have tried more than just d20.
 

Jdvn1 said:
I get the impression that the people who wonder why the industry struggles are
the same people that know what their options are and have tried more than just d20.

lots of people around here wonder why the industry struggles and they don't play anything but d20. Even though EN World does have some non d20 diusucssion the vast majority of the people here are d20 only gamers.
 

Croth, you're right. We're not playing D&D. We're playing a D20 fantasy game, which resembles D&D in many ways. But I'm Clear about it NOT being D&D. I break traditions and assumptions in D&D all the time, and wouldn't really enjoy it if I couldn't.
The D&D idea is fun once in a while, but its not really what I want for my game. I'd prefer something even Lesssimilar, but my players wouldn't ;)

But we compromise. We play a D20 game, which is D&D like in some ways, and not in others. Our Magic system is different, both in rules (EOM), and in the way it works (Story). We use Grim and Gritty, and that chances the game's feel a lot.

But I agree with your point.. When you start modifying things like that, it's not the same game. And I agree with that strongly. I've played a decent number of 3e games outside of this one, and it can be fun.. But it's not what we're going for here.

I've read someone's sig, which said that people who want a low-power D&D game should "Play something else". We're doing exactly that.. We're just using a lot of D20 rules in it.

Colin "D&D is fun, but not right for This particular game" Davis
 

Then spread the word, Cro! Those d20-only players can probably be convinced with time.
 

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