FFG Legendary Class contest submissions

[RedCliff]

Re: Cool, but...

Redcliff, can you make those changes to the Forgemaster and send them to me? I may also have a proposal for you.

Wow, a proposal. That sounds cool. Alas, I can't make any changes to the Forgemaster, not in good conscience anyway, as it wasn't my submission. I did the Warrior of the Broken Wake and the Storm.

 

[PA]

Escrima is actually a Filipino word (not English), which is derived from the Spanish "esgrima" (fencing).

What I meant is that Escrima is used as such in English, just as Karate (Japanese) or Taekwondo (Korean) are, while there is another name in English for the French word "escrime," and that's "fencing."

It's not just stick fighting either, it's a school of martial arts.

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My bad. All the escrima I've seen demonstrated was with the short sticks; I guess it is because they wanted the demo to look better, and their style different from other martial arts.

As an aside, I'm glad PA and Rauvel have stuff in common, but please don't get into discussions of fencing, and your enthusiasm for it, in this thread unless it's somehow relevant to the topic.

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It was. We've been discussing about the title "maître d'escrime" and its pertinence. We both gave tidbits about our background so to lend credence to our assertions. In no post do we only discuss about our experience in fencing (which would not be much, for me, anyway).

Now I think about it, there is another possible French title: "fine lame."

A "fine lame" is, literally, an "excellent blade." i.e. a great fencer, an expert swordsman.

No risk of confusion and it sounds good too.

 

[Khur]

Ooops...

Wow, a proposal. That sounds cool. Alas, I can't make any changes to the Forgemaster, not in good conscience anyway, as it wasn't my submission. I did the Warrior of the Broken Wake and the Storm.

Dang! I meant Shadeus!

I think I'm getting punchy from looking at the screen too long!

Now I think about it, there is another possible French title: "fine lame."

"Fine lame" isn't so good because of what those words can be taken for in English. Think about it ... "fine" and "lame". I'm glad you both have experience in fencing. BTW, I wasn't talking about anything you HAD pasted here in suggesting that you not discuss fencing here, although I did notice you asked Rauvel where his school was.

 

[Ruavel]

Maite d'Escrime...

Originally posted by PA
Do you think most people would understand "maître d'escrime" anyway?

good point...

Originally posted by Khur
Back on topic, I was wondering if the maître d'escrime class shouldn't have an English name instead?

that may make things a little easier for the average gamer, but I'd like a few people's opinion on this... I used Maitre d'Escrime instead of Fencing Master to reflect an element of the elitism and pretensiousness that existed in the masters of old and has permiated into the modern sport... but I'm happy to have others reading the thread comment on preference (preferably with some reason behind it, too...)

Originally posted by Khur
I'd love to see a new thread dedicated to the topic alone, so I can learn from the educated.

where should such a thread be started...? General Discussion...?

and last, but by no means least, attached is the most recent draft of the Maitre...

 

[Khur]

I'm back!

Sorry I've been short on the posts for a few days ... I was just finishing some paying freelance work. I'll post more soon ... right now I'm real tired.

For your entertainment:

Is Hasbro/WotC Mismanaging D&D -- a poll by a veteran gamer with a bit too much bile!

and

Tracy Hickman's ill-advised rant. -- in case you didn't see what the Dragonlance author thinks of vile material!

Thanks everyone!

 

[RedCliff]

Book?

While we're just passing around information, has anyone received their copy of Path of the Sword yet? I'm still waiting on mine, and the more reviews I read about it the more I'm wondering how much longer I can hold out.

 

[MythicJustice]

Re: Book?

While we're just passing around information, has anyone received their copy of Path of the Sword yet? I'm still waiting on mine, and the more reviews I read about it the more I'm wondering how much longer I can hold out.

Nope. Havn't gotten mine yet either.

-Chad

 

[RedCliff]

Re: Maite d'Escrime...

that may make things a little easier for the average gamer, but I'd like a few people's opinion on this... I used Maitre d'Escrime instead of Fencing Master to reflect an element of the elitism and pretensiousness that existed in the masters of old and has permiated into the modern sport... but I'm happy to have others reading the thread comment on preference (preferably with some reason behind it, too...)

I think you might be okay with maître d'armes. It comes across as clearly French (and still keeps the elitist ring you're looking for), but armes is close enough to the English arms, that a reader is likely to infer a waepon of somekind. And let's face it, when you think French weaponary, given the period context, you're most likely going to think of a fencing sword. It's what they're truly famous for.

When I saw the original title maître d'escrime, I immediately assumed something French, but just as Khur was, I was thrown by escrime, confusing it with the Philappeno martial art as well. With maître d'armes I think you'll be close enough to the English not to lose too many people, and still retain the ring you want.

All IMO, of course.

 

[Khur]

I have no book...

No book have I. Ah well, bittersweet anticipation!

Just a quick comment, I agree with Redcliff on the maître d'armes point. Good call.

 

[Khur]

Forging ahead!

Here's the scoop. I've gotten a bunch of freelance work, so I have to work on that, but I still want to finish this book. It'll just be a bit slower now, but I'm gonna put myself on a schedule. I'm editing everyone's work, and I'll post what I consider to be the final here. If I sent you back a version of your class, and you haven't sent me your responses to my edit, I'm going to assume my changes are fine. If the changes are extensive, you'll get less credit for the final piece (perhaps).

Don't bother to ask me if you're in that boat if you've been participating heavily. You know who you are. Good work all around.

On that note, the recent version of Deity's Weapon looks much better.

I'll keep posting regular updates. When it gets close to layout time, we'll start talking art. Feel free to send me art, if you like.

Thanks everyone!