Fiendish lore question--what makes a fiend become unique?

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So, has it ever been spelled out anywhere (maybe in some Planescape product that I don't have, I'd guess?) what the process is by which a fiend becomes unique ala a demon prince or devil noble?

I'm just curious--a few things strike me as a bit weird, specifically some of the stat blocks for unique fiendish lords having a lower CR than, say balors and/or pit fiends, and the fact that Bel isn't a unique fiendish lord. But I'm not necessarily looking for answers to those questions (although it would be appreciated) I'm more curious on whether or not there's any lore available on what allows a fiend to become a unique creature in the first place.
 

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One idea: It's unique because it's killed every other member of its species. Or it's the last survivor.

This works best for demons - there's an infinite variety after all. For devils, the fiendish codex makes it clear that they're either fallen celestials of great power (Asmodeus, Dis and Mephistopheles) or have had their forms changed by Asmodeus.
 

J-Dawg said:
So, has it ever been spelled out anywhere (maybe in some Planescape product that I don't have, I'd guess?) what the process is by which a fiend becomes unique ala a demon prince or devil noble?
Demon Prince = sheer perseverance and an overwhelming sense of hate, wrath, chaos and evil.
Devil Noble = promotion usually via Asmodeus or another ArchDevil. FCII is pretty explicit on the whole deal actually IIRC.

I'm just curious--a few things strike me as a bit weird, specifically some of the stat blocks for unique fiendish lords having a lower CR than, say balors and/or pit fiends, and the fact that Bel isn't a unique fiendish lord. But I'm not necessarily looking for answers to those questions (although it would be appreciated) I'm more curious on whether or not there's any lore available on what allows a fiend to become a unique creature in the first place.
I'm sure that Faces of Evil prolly talks about the subject, but I don't know it's content by heart. :D
 

*thinks Pants has it mostly right* That and personal power are ways demons become unique. Or in the case of some Obryiths, they survived the uprising of the Tannar'ri.
 

What Pants said regarding demons and devils.

I'd add that among Tanar'ri, the point where a Balor might transcend their status (or another true tanar'ri might even possibly bypass balor to become unique), is often but not always the same time that they attempt to force their will upon a layer of the Abyss itself. This apotheosis creates something of a blur between Abyssal Lord and layer of the Abyss, and you can't always make clear where one ends and the other begins, except that in this nominal symbiosis of lord and layer, the lord has to be able to enforce their will upon a sometimes unwilling, and hungry, subject.

For yugoloths there are multiple paths to a unique form, and what unique actually is, is sometimes hard to say with yugoloths given their racial obsession with purity of form and substance. The General of Gehenna might not necessarily be so unique, but he exists as the first and most powerful Ultroloth in the multiverse, but since that time he might have shifted form by his own power, or been given such a form by the Baernaloths of The Demented to differentiate him as the highest recipient of their favor and wisdom.

Oinoloth as a position and title carries with it the blessing/curse of a unique form. The throne of Khin-Oin grants its holder obscene power yes, but it inflicts them with a unique, individualized curse such as the rotting, sloughing flesh that haunted Anthraxus, and the as yet undescribed "gift" that Mydianchlarus gained for his success at forcing that prior Oinoloth to voluntarily give up the throne. Perhaps Mydianchlarus gave him some sort of insight into the position itself, something that made Anthraxus horrified at keeping the position. Perhaps the rotting that Anthraxus endured was not a general trait given by the Siege Malicious, but a rather pointed expression of unhappiness by the Tower, or the 'loths' makers at a perceived lack of purity on the part of Anthraxus when he took the position.

Mydianchlarus and the General of Gehenna are 'unique' yugoloths, and it's possible that you might also include Helekanalaith the Keeper of the Tower Arcane (though he might just be an obscenely powerful arcanaloth), and Larsdana Ap Neut (same thing as Helekanalaith).

A subclass of unique yugoloths are called Altraloths, and their unique forms come from a pact they make with powerful cabals of Night Hags, a process that can be lethal. The 'loth can gain power at the expense of position within the orthodox heirarchy of their race, something which doesn't necessarily sit well with the other 'loths, but which the gain in personal power typically balances. Charon, Bubonix, Taba, Xenghara, Cholerix, and Anthraxus are the known members of this group.

And then the various Baernaloths are in a class all their own, and they're not technically yugoloths.
 

I should also point out that Bel is in fact a unique Baatezu, not just a big pit fiend, though 3e hasn't gone out of its way to depict him as such, and this probably owes a lot to the way that Guide to Hell handled the situation (I have reason to not like portions of that book). As detailed in PS, Bel may have started out as a lemure and worked his way up to pit fiend status, and been a pit fiend for some time, but his seizure of power from Zariel and approval of that coup by both the Dark 8 and Asmodeus himself made Bel something else entirety. His avatar in 2e as described by Colin McComb was more devilish humanoid than pit fiend, but 3e has tended to almost exclusively model his appearance on that of just a much bigger pit fiend, which is unfortunate.

Given his record as a pit fiend though, Bel probably benefits from a continued fashion of presenting himself as just a more glorified version of his old form, but if he desired he could present himself in whatever other form he wanted. His exploits as a general in the Blood War under Dagos of the Dark 8, and his continued role in the marshalling of the armies of the other Lords on Avernus likely makes him remembered more fondly by the rank and file Baatezu as an example of what they might become by loyalty and merit, rather than if Bel assumed a more distant, differentiated form.
 
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Tanar'ri become unique when they become powerful enough that they don't have to rely on the reputation of their caste to strike terror in others.

For example, everyone wants to become a balor because the image of a balor equals automatic respect throughout much of the Abyss.

If a tanar'ri decided to evolve into a green-skinned humanoid with a rhino horn and the lower body of a centipede, no one would know what the heck it was, and so any terror it inspired would have to come from its own reputation. If the demon wasn't a fearsome foe in its own right, that might be a problem.

Any tanar'ri can elect to evolve into a unique form at any stage in its career (although if it doesn't have great personal strength it can't prevent others from copying that form). In practice, however, few elect to do so unless they exceed the power of a balor, because the form of a balor has so many advantages.

Gaining control over an Abyssal layer is not a prerequisite, since many unique demons (Kerzit the Guardian, Aldinach, Azael, etc.) do not rule entire layers of hte Abyss.

Among the baatezu, they are simply given unique forms by their superiors when they leave the ranks of the pit fiends. Because Bel took a shortcut of sorts, jumping directly from pit fiend to Lord of the Nine, he has to modify himself, since no other Lord of the Nine seems willing to do it for him. This is why the process is slower for him than it was for others.
 



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