Fiendish lore question--what makes a fiend become unique?

[Nightfall]

Rip,

Okay just checking. I honestly thought they covered all that needed to be covered. If you feel otherwise, your call.

 

[BOZ]

I should also point out that Bel is in fact a unique Baatezu, not just a big pit fiend, though 3e hasn't gone out of its way to depict him as such, and this probably owes a lot to the way that Guide to Hell handled the situation (I have reason to not like portions of that book). As detailed in PS, Bel may have started out as a lemure and worked his way up to pit fiend status, and been a pit fiend for some time, but his seizure of power from Zariel and approval of that coup by both the Dark 8 and Asmodeus himself made Bel something else entirety. His avatar in 2e as described by Colin McComb was more devilish humanoid than pit fiend, but 3e has tended to almost exclusively model his appearance on that of just a much bigger pit fiend, which is unfortunate.

i do kind of like the idea of him resembling a pit fiend, who has been modifying his form over time. sort of like "this is where i started, and i'm seeing where i can go with it."

 

[Shade]

i do kind of like the idea of him resembling a pit fiend, who has been modifying his form over time. sort of like "this is where i started, and i'm seeing where i can go with it."

I'd like him alot more if they'd played up that angle better in recent supplements. :\

 

[BOZ]

bah, if his appearance is the only thing that bothers you, that's easy enough to correct in your own campaign.

 

[Pants]

I'd like him alot more if they'd played up that angle better in recent supplements. :\

Bel still > than the lame Levistus (HIS appearance just keeps getting worse and worse)

 

[Shade]

Bel still > than the lame Levistus (HIS appearance just keeps getting worse and worse)

I kinda like the BoVD pic...there's something otherworldly creepy about that pic.

But the FCII pic...not so much. :\

 

[Shemeska]

I kinda like the BoVD pic...there's something otherworldly creepy about that pic.

That was an awesome pic. Levistus got a lot cooler in my mind (and some token involvement in my campaign) largely because of how cool that image was.

 

[BOZ]

Levistus got a lot cooler

is that possible?

 

[Shade]

is that possible?

I find it funny that the dude lives in a freakin' iceberg and has...resistance to cold 20.

I'm guessing he could get cooler.

 

[Pants]

I find it funny that the dude lives in a freakin' iceberg and has...resistance to cold 20.

Just another slight by big ol' Asmodeus.

Imprisoned for eternity? Check.
Immobile? Check.
Really, really cold? Check.
No coat? Double check.