Fighter Medusa question

[Trainz]

If I slap 20 fighter levels on a medusa:

Will the petrification and poison save DC change ?

What will be the new CR value of the medusa ?



Thanks in advance !

 

[Ripper-nk]

If I slap 20 fighter levels on a medusa:

Will the petrification and poison save DC change ?

What will be the new CR value of the medusa ?



Thanks in advance !

The DC of tahs SQ are 10 + 1/2 HD + Ability based (CHA probably)

 

[Nightfall]

The petrification I believe is Cha based. So unless said Medusa gets a huge increase in its Cha, the petrification ability DC probably won't change. (At least not unless you get a feat that allows her to increase one of it's special abilities.)

Anyway Druid/Blood Witch is MUCH better IMHO.

 

[Trainz]

The DC of tahs SQ are 10 + 1/2 HD + Ability based (CHA probably)

So, since Medusae are 6 hit dice, plus the 20 fighter hit-dice, and it has 15 Cha, that would be 10 + 13 (26/2) + 2 = 25 ?

 

[Trainz]

The petrification I believe is Cha based. So unless said Medusa gets a huge increase in its Cha, the petrification ability DC probably won't change. (At least not unless you get a feat that allows her to increase one of it's special abilities.)

So, in your opinion, the fighter levels WON'T raise the save DC ?

 

[Camarath]

So, in your opinion, the fighter levels WON'T raise the save DC ?

Yes, because of this quote from the SRD under Gaze (Su): in the Types, Subtypes, and Special Abilities section.

The type of saving throw for a gaze attack varies, but it is usually a Will or Fortitude save (DC 10 + 1/2 gazing creature’s racial HD + gazing creature’s Cha modifier; the exact DC is given in the creature’s descriptive text).

 

[Ripper-nk]

So, since Medusae are 6 hit dice, plus the 20 fighter hit-dice, and it has 15 Cha, that would be 10 + 13 (26/2) + 2 = 25 ?

Ok I'm wrong.

Monster Manual page 309, Gaze(Su):

"The type of saving throw for a gaze attack varies, but it is usually a Will or Fortitude save (DC 10 +1/2 gazing creature racial HD + cha modifier)"

So only racial HD count.

And remember a Fighter Medusa of 20 lvl is a character with 26 lvls (20 fgt + 6 medusa) and have some Level Adjustment too. +3 or +4 probably.

 

[Trainz]

Thanks guys, you help me a lot !

 

[Rath the Brown]

Ok I'm wrong.

Monster Manual page 309, Gaze(Su):

"The type of saving throw for a gaze attack varies, but it is usually a Will or Fortitude save (DC 10 +1/2 gazing creature racial HD + cha modifier)"

So only racial HD count.

And remember a Fighter Medusa of 20 lvl is a character with 26 lvls (20 fgt + 6 medusa) and have some Level Adjustment too. +3 or +4 probably.

What he said. The only way to change the save DC would be if you used some of the ability increases granted every 4 levels to increase the medusa's Charisma.

 

[Nightfall]

Exactly. So other than that and maybe increasing the racial HD, (Or adding the paragon template), you'll not increase the DC on that special attack ability.

Which again I say, Druid/Blood Witch is MUCH better.