Find the Anime Challenge

[Lonely Tylenol]

Actually, as I recall, you thought another one had anime characteristics. Long ago, I suggested that you need an impartial judge. Specific impartial judges might gain a consensus. Consensus from everyone, though? Unlikely on anything. This is the Interweb. If I said the sky was blue, I'd have an argument on my hands.

We've seen Warforged + original anime art Warforged look was designed from.

Already debunked by a couple of us. edit: even more of us since you posted about this again

We've seen BESM gnome on stool, which you (if you are the judge) said qualified. And, before you say "but others didn't agree", I must say, "then why did others not agreeing matter when you said something was not anime-ish?"

He was proven wrong by someone posting the Hildebrandt pic. He wasn't proven wrong for the other ones he decided on.

We've seen Manga Tiefling. Which you (if you are the judge) said qualified.

And no one's arguing against that one.

We've seen many other images in which there has been consensus (if not absolute concensus).

Actually, no. All the other ones are controversial.

BTW, how can you say

Every "anime inspired" bit we've seen so far comes from Eberron artwork AFAIK. Is it fair to say that Eberron, with it specific styles, may have anime influences that are more pronounced than the rest of the game?​

if you believe that there was only one bit of "anime inspired" art and it was from FR? What are the Eberron pieces that qualify then?

RC

To answer that for him, it's because the majority of the early submissions to the thread were from Eberron, the Valenar elf engendered a lot of discussion, and Eberron is a newer setting and therefore more likely to have deliberately appropriated anime aesthetics. Obviously, someone thinks Eberron is full of anime, so he's investigating the reasons why.

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

I say again, if you think that you are in the right appoint a neutral judge or judges, or I consider you forsworn.

I've started the process of enlisting neutral judges: http://messageboard.tokyopop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10725

After a week, unless these people decide against you, I'll post the next three pictures.

Nuh uh! I appoint myself to be the official Hussar forswornitude judge! I called it first, so tough cookies. I also declare myself king of the moon and rightful owner of all left-handed hammers.

My authority to do so is exactly as well-grounded as your authority to declare Hussar forsworn.

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

I asked a friend of mine to look at the thread a while back. It was several pages ago, in post 210. She's into comic books, and anime, both. Quite a large collection of both. I asked her whether the art in this thread was comic book or anime styled. I didn't tell her my opinions on the matter.

She said that it was comic book art, mostly. Some generic fantasy art. No anime.

Immediately someone told me she wasn't objective. Their reasoning was that she likes both comic books and anime. I don't know why that reasoning makes sense, but that's what they told me.

If she wasn't acceptable to the "OH NOES THE ANIME" crowd, I don't know who would be.

Someone who sees anime in WotC art with the fervour of Joe McCarthy spotting communists in the social service...which is why consensus is really our only option.

 

[The Merciful]

Hmmm... Big widely spaced eyes? Check. The smaller the character, the bigger it's eyes? Check.

I'd say smaller characters having bigger eyes in proportion to their bodies and head, as well having bigger heads in proportion to their bodies is just basic anatomy. One problem I have had with the current D&D art is that you can't tell a halfling from a human if there's isn't something in the image to compare the sizes. Gives a "bad movies special effect" feel to an image when there is such size reference points, too.

 

[AllisterH]

IMHO, the look of the warforged is far too similar to that of Full Metal Alchemist to be dismissed.

And let's not forget the Revenant Blade elf posted a couple of pages back.

If I may give my opinion as an artist, both images show strong anime influence. Noy that it's a bad thing, mind you.

Wait? Are you talking about Alphonse's metal body?

Isn't that simple a medieval suit of armour, something you would find straight out of the 1E PHB as compared to the 3E PHB?

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

I'd say smaller characters having bigger eyes in proportion to their bodies and head, as well having bigger heads in proportion to their bodies is just basic anatomy.

Well, yeah. The size of the orbit is proportional to visual acuity. That's why ostriches have eyes the size of plums, but moles have eyes the size of sesame seeds. If you need good vision, you need more surface to pack the visual cells on, and if halflings are supposed to have eyesight that is about as good as a human's, they need eyes that are about the same size. Cranium size is important too. Big brains are necessary to be about as smart as a human, and so a halfling's head should be large enough to carry a fairly large brain. So you get big heads and big eyes in proportion to the size of their bodies, for exactly the same reasons that human children have proportionally big heads and big eyes.

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

Still waiting for a merge function

Wait? Are you talking about Alphonse's metal body?

Isn't that simple a medieval suit of armour, something you would find straight out of the 1E PHB as compared to the 3E PHB?

Well, see, the helmet has a jaw, so it's anime. Jaws are so anime.

 

[Jedi_Solo]

Jaws are so anime.

[hijack]

We're anti-sharks now? When did this happen?

[/byejack]

 

[AllisterH]

Well, see, the helmet has a jaw, so it's anime. Jaws are so anime.

Kinda weird to use FMA as an example. That anime is HEAVILY influenced in look and feel of Europe pre-Industrial revolution. The japanese have no history/mthology about Alchemy/Philosopher's Stone/Seven Deadly Sins.

 

[Raven Crowking]

Already debunked by a couple of us. edit: even more of us since you posted about this again

Um...saying "No it isn't" isn't the same as debunking.

If you look at first respondant to the poll I posted on the Anime Messageboard, you'll note that the respondent joined apparently just to answer that poll, but has no knowledge of this thread. Hmmm. It reminds me a bit of a recent Savage Love column, when Dan Savage talked about the kind of details that he uses to preclude fake letters. Clearly, someone on this discussion has no desire to see an unbiased judgement, and attempts to tell the other potential respondents what is being seen.

I smell a rat.

(But I absolutely, unequivocably, believe that that rat is not the OP, who I have faith would not do this sort of thing.)

When someone tries to avoid an impartial judge, there is always a reason for it!


RC