Find the Anime Challenge

[Sir Sebastian Hardin]

Wow. That just shows how little I know of anime. I would never have called that picture anime. All I think of is Artesia (http://www.artesiaonline.com).

Indeed, looking at the Artesia site, it's the same artist. Never knew that qualified as anime. Live and learn, I guess.

/M

Well... it does look consistent with his other work... I guess it just looked anime-ish.

 

[Nifft]

Certainly, if you were honest about your challenge, the opinion of an unbiased and knowledgeable judge ought to be sufficient to sway your opinion as to whether "those who claim the strong anime influences in D&D art don't really know what they're talking about" or not. I know it would sway my opinion.

How's your poll thing doing? Did your board buy the anime influence argument? How long is left?

-- N

 

[Mad Mac]

The poll is currently 9 to 1 against the pictures posted looking like anime. Almost all opinions posted on the thread say the pictures look like something taken from an American or European comic book.

 

[WizarDru]

Well... it does look consistent with his other work... I guess it just looked anime-ish.

I've always seen Smylie's Artesia as being heavily influencd by Milo Manara's artwork.
Manara from the 1970s/80s:

Smylie from the 1990s/2000s:

 

[Raven Crowking]

The poll is currently 9 to 1 against the pictures posted looking like anime. Almost all opinions posted on the thread say the pictures look like something taken from an American or European comic book.

Yup.

I would personally like a larger number of voters, but I would have to say, based on the Tokyopop forum, that the first three pictures are not anime-ish enough to qualify. Tokyopop's forum validates Hussar on those.

I would be quite willing to agree, too, that if this thread doesn't contain it yet, it probably isn't going to found.

The only exception is the ravid, which looks a lot like an anime creature to me. I am specifically thinking of the dragon in Spirited Away.

 

[Nifft]

The only exception is the ravid, which looks a lot like an anime creature to me. I am specifically thinking of the dragon in Spirited Away.

Aw hell, if all Asian dragons count as anime, you don't have to look farther than the Gold Dragon.

He's even got a fu-manchu.

-- N

 

[Klaus]

I've always seen Smylie's Artesia as being heavily influencd by Milo Manara's artwork.
Manara from the 1970s/80s:

Smylie from the 1990s/2000s:

And Milo Manara is always a Good Thing (tm).

 

[AllisterH]

Aw hell, if all Asian dragons count as anime, you don't have to look farther than the Gold Dragon.

He's even got a fu-manchu.

-- N

Welll that's kind of weird though given that the gold dragon at least in the 2E MM was noted as appearing wingless. I think in the 1E MM as well, it was noted that the Gold Dragon could appear wingless and had the Fu-Manchu look.

Dragons in anime actually have two stylizations.

1. Western Dragon a la the dragons from Slayers/Record of Lodoss Wars. Basically, anything set in a setting more akin to medieval fantasy Europe with knights/kings/plate mail is going to look like the typical Red Dragon you see in the MM.

2. Eastern Dragons a la the Dragons from Dragonball (Z) and Inuyasha. If set in a fantastic Asia, the dragon will look closer to a Ravvid/Linnorm/Gold Dragon.

Anime/Manga writers tend to keep the two separate.

 

[Nifft]

My point was: does "anime" encompass all Asian mythology and history, or is it restricted to stylizations typical of Asian cartoons within the last ... I dunno, 20 years? 30 years?

If "anime" is allowed to mean "historical Asian dragons", then the Ravid is in, as is the Gold Dragon dating back to 1e.

In either case IMHO the influence for the Ravid (and Gold Dragon) can be traced to Asian mythology and artwork much older than anime. Lethe-boy from Spirited Away can trace his character design back to the same source.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Danzauker]

So. These are all pictures of girls named "Alice". Some are from Western media, some are from Anime.



Just to refresh ourselves on what Anime looks like vs. what Western stuff looks like.

I know 1951 is Western and 2007 is Anime. Anyone care to guess the ones in between?

Cheers, -- N

Well, from 1983 (Fushigi No Kuni No Alice - The Wonderful World Of Alice), all pictures seem obviously anime.

1951 is Disney, everybody knows that. 1966 Western

All earlier, well, it's hard to define something "anime" when animation as we know it didn't exist yet.

Frankly, it seems to me a big 80% or more in this forum is almost completely unknowing of what anime or manga is...