D&D 5E Fizban Is In The Wild -- With the Table of Contents!

Some people have received their copies of Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, and have posted photos (including the table of contents!) online!

 

[Yaarel]

I think you have a very particular definition of divinity (specifically in a fantast context like D&D). Do you care to share what your definition is?

In D&D 5e:

"divinity" = divine power source

divine power source = cosmic forces

cosmic forces = domains



The Paladin wields the divine power source because an "oath" is a cosmic force.

The Paladin engages divinity as an impersonal abstract sacred principle.

The Paladin doesnt engage divinity as if it is a person in a personal relationship.

 

[Micah Sweet]

In D&D 5e:

"divinity" = divine power source

divine power source = cosmic forces

cosmic forces = domains



The Paladin wields the divine power source because an "oath" is a cosmic force.

The Paladin engages divinity as an impersonal abstract sacred principle.

The Paladin doesnt engage divinity as if it is a person in a personal relationship.

I think you are overstating your case. A player can choose if the divine source of their PCs power is a God (ala the classic campaign settings of yore) or a "cosmic force". They can decide (working with the GM) if their God is objectively real or not, if they have one. It's all up to you, and WotC has given up on telling people how things that dont affect mechanics work. That's where we are, and insisting that things are one way or another on stuff like this nowadays is, imo, an exercise in futility. Everyone, including WotC, should just do what they want.

 

[dave2008]

In D&D 5e:

"divinity" = divine power source

divine power source = cosmic forces

cosmic forces = domains



The Paladin wields the divine power source because an "oath" is a cosmic force.

The Paladin engages divinity as an impersonal abstract sacred principle.

The Paladin doesnt engage divinity as if it is a person in a personal relationship.

OK, not my definition.

Though I was really asking outside of 5e, or really a game at all. So not in terms of game mechanics, how do you define divinity?

 

[Henadic Theologian]

I just saw a table in a video where there was the Cleric/Paladin/Warlock entry and not only are Draconic Gods allowed to be your God/Patron, but so is dead Sadior, and any Dragon with mastery of Dragon Sight, they mention the former Gods turned Great Wyrms.

So are Great Wyrms a kind of God, Demigod, Quasigod, or equivalent to one of the nine Archdevils (Glasya or Zariel or Fierna), who techniquely could Great divine magic in some editions of D&D?

This is just weird and confusing.

 

[Zeromaru X]

I just saw a table in a video where there was the Cleric/Paladin/Warlock entry and not only are Draconic Gods allowed to be your God/Patron, but so is dead Sadior, and any Dragon with mastery of Dragon Sight, they mention the former Gods turned Great Wyrms.

So are Great Wyrms a kind of God, Demigod, Quasigod, or equivalent to one of the nine Archdevils (Glasya or Zariel or Fierna), who techniquely could Great divine magic in some editions of D&D?

This is just weird and confusing.

I'm interested in watching that video, pls.

 

[Parmandur]

I just saw a table in a video where there was the Cleric/Paladin/Warlock entry and not only are Draconic Gods allowed to be your God/Patron, but so is dead Sadior, and any Dragon with mastery of Dragon Sight, they mention the former Gods turned Great Wyrms.

So are Great Wyrms a kind of God, Demigod, Quasigod, or equivalent to one of the nine Archdevils (Glasya or Zariel or Fierna), who techniquely could Great divine magic in some editions of D&D?

This is just weird and confusing.

Not that confusing, seems you figured it out in this one post: Great Wyrms are semi-divine, like that one guy in the Realms Not-Greece whose name is like Ceasar.

 

[Maxperson]

In D&D 5e:

"divinity" = divine power source

divine power source = cosmic forces

cosmic forces = domains



The Paladin wields the divine power source because an "oath" is a cosmic force.

The Paladin engages divinity as an impersonal abstract sacred principle.

The Paladin doesnt engage divinity as if it is a person in a personal relationship.

"Whatever their origin and their mission, paladins are united by their oaths to stand against the forces of evil. Whether sworn before a god's altar and the witness of a priest..."

And...

"Although many paladins are devoted to gods of good, a paladin's power comes as much from a commitment to justice itself as it does from a god."

There is an aspect of the personal relationship with regard to both oaths and the paladin's power. It doesn't have to be there, but it's not divorced from the class like you are implying.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

I just saw a table in a video where there was the Cleric/Paladin/Warlock entry and not only are Draconic Gods allowed to be your God/Patron, but so is dead Sadior

Not dead, just shattered.

, and any Dragon with mastery of Dragon Sight, they mention the former Gods turned Great Wyrms.

So are Great Wyrms a kind of God, Demigod, Quasigod, or equivalent to one of the nine Archdevils (Glasya or Zariel or Fierna), who techniquely could Great divine magic in some editions of D&D?

This is just weird and confusing.

Probably about the same level as an Archfiend/Archfey/Celestial Paragon. Quasi-Deities/Demigods in terms of power. Some are even more powerful than Avatars/Aspects of certain gods (like the Avatars of Bhaal that we recently got in the Minsc and Boo DMsGuild product).

 

[dave2008]

So are Great Wyrms a kind of God, Demigod, Quasigod, or equivalent to one of the nine Archdevils (Glasya or Zariel or Fierna), who techniquely could Great divine magic in some editions of D&D?

yes, as they should be

This is just weird and confusing.

How so, seems awesome and clear to me!

 

[Paul Farquhar]

So are Great Wyrms a kind of God, Demigod, Quasigod, or equivalent to one of the nine Archdevils (Glasya or Zariel or Fierna), who techniquely could Great divine magic in some editions of D&D?

These categories do not exist in 5e.