D&D General Forgotten Realms: Real World Gods Still Present in the Old Empires

[cbwjm]

Yup.

King Tuts tomb only one found so far that wasn't looted afaik.

Pyramids look cool but theyre a big signpost.

Pretty sure his tomb entrance was buried which hid it from grave robbers. Having a valley of the kings was probably a pretty big signpost as well.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Who is king of Damara in 1501...? That contradicts a novel Salvatore published a decade ago.

Decade ago? When was that novel published?

 

[Parmandur]

Decade ago? When was that novel published?

Hero was published in 2016, a good 6 or 7 hears before this book would have begun production. The Wiki notes Yarin Fromstmantle assassinated and his assassination covered up in 1487 DR, but this was ignored in SCAG and now in 1501 DR he is still around. It seems quite clear that the novels are not being .monitored as canonical, though they might use them as occasional touchpoijts...as with the movie, or Baldur's Gate 3.

 

[Zardnaar]

Pretty sure his tomb entrance was buried which hid it from grave robbers. Having a valley of the kings was probably a pretty big signpost as well.

Yup they all got raided as well. Tuts tomb got buried.

He was a nothing special/weak Pharoah as well.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Hero was published in 2016, a good 6 or 7 hears before this book would have begun production. The Wiki notes Yarin Fromstmantle assassinated and his assassination covered up in 1487 DR, but this was ignored in SCAG and now in 1501 DR he is still around. It seems quite clear that the novels are not being .monitored as canonical, though they might use them as occasional touchpoijts...as with the movie, or Baldur's Gate 3.

The SCAG was published November 2015, Hero was published in 2016 October. Yarin wasn't a thing before that. Which is to say its clear that they put Yarin into the SCAG to set the stage for Hero, its undoubtedly supporting the novel before it came out a year later, without spoiling the ending.

So its clear that this isn't some attempt to retcon Hero, because Hero is why Yarin was King in first place, just like the remains of Tymanther in the SCAG too Erin M Evans future novels into consideration, setting them up, without spoiling key events.

Which tells me that its simple as someone but very little effort into that part abd just copy pasted the SCAG instead of doing their research. This entry doesn't ignore Hero, it can't because the SCAG's entry was based on Hero itself (the start of the novel, not the end). How utterly careless again. I'm dropping my rating if the books to a 6. This isn't a retcon, its just sloppy work. There great parts of this books like Calimshan & the Atlas of Faerun (although even that has some errors), and then there is just where it really feels like they put far too little effort in like Damara.

 

[Parmandur]

The SCAG was published November 2015, Hero was published in 2016 October. Yarin wasn't a thing before that. Which is to say its clear that they put Yarin into the SCAG to set the stage for Hero, its undoubtedly supporting the novel before it came out a year later, without spoiling the ending.

So its clear that this isn't some attempt to retcon Hero, because Hero is why Yarin was King in first place, just like the remains of Tymanther in the SCAG too Erin M Evans future novels into consideration, setting them up, without spoiling key events.

Which tells me that its simple as someone but very little effort into that part abd just copy pasted the SCAG instead of doing their research. This entry doesn't ignore Hero, it can't because the SCAG's entry was based on Hero itself (the start of the novel, not the end). How utterly careless again. I'm dropping my rating if the books to a 6. This isn't a retcon, its just sloppy work. There great parts of this books like Calimshan & the Atlas of Faerun (although even that has some errors), and then there is just where it really feels like they put far too little effort in like Damara.

The most obvious explanation is thst they are not keeping to a "canon" based on novel plots, because that is what they said they are doing.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

The most obvious explanation is thst they are not keeping to a "canon" based on novel plots, because that is what they said they are doing.

Except they are, the entry still refers to Hero, its that they just copied the SCAG and didn't do any research.

Another example is Skuld. Calling it the longest continually occupied human city in Faerûn is taken straight from previous editions. Except it was in ruins in 4e, or at least part of it was. And that wasn't retconned, but because the Sundering and Abeir still get mentioned in the book.

Face it, its just sloppy research, nothing more.

 

[Parmandur]

Except they are, the entry still refers to Hero, its that they just copied the SCAG and didn't do any research.

Another example is Skuld. Calling it the longest continually occupied human city in Faerûn is taken straight from previous editions. Except it was in ruins in 4e, or at least part of it was. And that wasn't retconned, but because the Sundering and Abeir still get mentioned in the book.

Face it, its just sloppy research, nothing more.

They have said repeatedly that previous Canon os a cafeteria of options, and they are not going to be bound by it. It is not "sloppy", it is precisely what they have said theybare doing for years.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

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[Parmandur]

It is sloppy, its not even an issue of being bound by canon at this point, because they are still referring to the novels, it IS carelessness they literally just repeated what it said in the SCAG for Damara and FRSC for Skuld. It's not like all of a sudden they say Ten Towns was founded by and for Bugbears or some major retcons.

I don't know why you keep pushing that blog post, it was already contradicted by Ed Greenwood. Ed's word on this is literally the law on how canon works, contractual law.

Still never seen he precisely legal language that supposedly means that.

The blog post remains important because it explains what WotC does and why. It is what theybare doing. And have for years. Canon and metaplot are juat not a concern, except as laid out in that blog post.