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[Demetrios1453]

Going over the old Forgotten Realma Atlas from 1990 for fun, and I estimate that (give or take) the area covered in detail in this new book ia about 9,240,000 square miles or around about the size of North America, while the area to the South of Faerûn is about 6,440,000 square miles, approximately the size of South America (about 10% just being the band of the Shaar along the middle bordering the Nprthern area).

You could basically do another book of a similar scale just about the Shining South (the 3.5 Shining South is the same length, to be fair). And going through the Grey Box Compendium...not only does the map cut off around the same spot, there is no info on the Shining South to be found there. "The South" is given as another name for the Old Empires region!

I know there's at least minimal info on Chult, Halruaa, and the Great Rift in the Grey Box. My copy is too buried currently to look it up , but I think Luiren, Dambrath, and Durpar also get short entries.

 

[Parmandur]

I know there's at least minimal info on Chult, Halruaa, and the Great Rift in the Grey Box. My copy is too buried currently to look it up , but I think Luiren, Dambrath, and Durpar also get short entries.

No entry for Chult or Halruaa, though I reckon they may get a mention somewhere else.

 

[Parmandur]

I know there's at least minimal info on Chult, Halruaa, and the Great Rift in the Grey Box. My copy is too buried currently to look it up , but I think Luiren, Dambrath, and Durpar also get short entries.

Other than appearing on the map, here ia the only thing the Grey Box says about Chult, feom page 5:

"Two of the maps are drawn to provide a general erview of the Realms, running from the Moonshae Isles in the west to the land of Thay in the east, and from the Spine of The World Mountains in the North to the Jungles of Chult in the south. These maps have been drawn with that information available to ourrepresentative in the Realms, Elminster the Sage, and represents what is known of those lands from the mindset of the Dalelands and Cormyr."

Halruaa merits two mentions, one on page 56 under Lantan:

"Finally, the people of Lantan have a mania for invention and devices. An Artificer, alchemist, or inventor who comes up with a new device will soon have a very persuasive Lantanna (or his agents) on his doorstep, making inquiries. It is known that Lantan gained knowledge of the printing press from the magical southern nation of Halruaa, and it is hinted that this aquisition was neither legal nor proper."

And on page 67 under the entry for Nimbral:

"The above may be all fairy-story, for many such tales come out of the south involving great and powerful magics that exceed the powers of the North. Yet just as often a flying ship appears on the horizon, carrying wonders from such a land as this or Halruaa, and so it is included herein."

The Great Rift ia on the map and merits the following mention on page 77, the third and final short paragraph in the e try for the Shaar:

"The region known as Eastern Shaar is sparser and less green, more of a wasteland. Within the Eastern Shaar is a huge cleft or canyon, known as the Great Rift, home to many southern dwarves."

Luiren and Durpar are mentioned on the map but not the text, and Dam rather has nothing.

So, all told, I really do expect the Beyond section of this book will have more on these places than the Grey Box did.

 

[Epic Meepo]

It looks like the core is what was called the "Bloodstone Lands" in FR9 (Vasa, Damara, Narfell, Impuliter and the Great Dale) plus the Vast broken off from the Eastern Heartlands and Thesk separated from the Arcane Empires region kt was covered under in FR6.

I'm guessing it's not a coincidence that the Forgotten Lands are all the lands in and around the Forgotten Kingdom of Impiltur.

As an aside, I find it amusing we now have the Forgotten Kingdom (Impiltur) in the Forgotten Lands (northeastern Faerun) in the the Forgotten Realms (the world of Toril). Now they just need to change Realmspace to Forgotten Space.

 

[Epic Meepo]

Going over the old Forgotten Realma Atlas from 1990 for fun, and I estimate that (give or take) the area covered in detail in this new book ia about 9,240,000 square miles or around about the size of North America, while the area to the South of Faerûn is about 6,440,000 square miles, approximately the size of South America (about 10% just being the band of the Shaar along the middle bordering the Nprthern area).

You could basically do another book of a similar scale just about the Shining South (the 3.5 Shining South is the same length, to be fair). And going through the Grey Box Compendium...not only does the map cut off around the same spot, there is no info on the Shining South to be found there. "The South" is given as another name for the Old Empires region!

If they group southern Faerun and northern Zakhara together, they could easily do a pair of Great Sea sourcebooks that cover the same amount of ground as the (northern) Faerun sourcebooks.

 

[Misanthrope Prime]

I'm guessing it's not a coincidence that the Forgotten Lands are all the lands in and around the Forgotten Kingdom of Impiltur.

As an aside, I find it amusing we now have the Forgotten Kingdom (Impiltur) in the Forgotten Lands (northeastern Faerun) in the the Forgotten Realms (the world of Toril). Now they just need to change Realmspace to Forgotten Space.

The [REDACTED] Realms

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Now they just need to change Realmspace to Forgotten Space

Watchdis Space?

 

[Demetrios1453]

Other than appearing on the map, here ia the only thing the Grey Box says about Chult, feom page 5:

"Two of the maps are drawn to provide a general erview of the Realms, running from the Moonshae Isles in the west to the land of Thay in the east, and from the Spine of The World Mountains in the North to the Jungles of Chult in the south. These maps have been drawn with that information available to ourrepresentative in the Realms, Elminster the Sage, and represents what is known of those lands from the mindset of the Dalelands and Cormyr."

Halruaa merits two mentions, one on page 56 under Lantan:

"Finally, the people of Lantan have a mania for invention and devices. An Artificer, alchemist, or inventor who comes up with a new device will soon have a very persuasive Lantanna (or his agents) on his doorstep, making inquiries. It is known that Lantan gained knowledge of the printing press from the magical southern nation of Halruaa, and it is hinted that this aquisition was neither legal nor proper."

And on page 67 under the entry for Nimbral:

"The above may be all fairy-story, for many such tales come out of the south involving great and powerful magics that exceed the powers of the North. Yet just as often a flying ship appears on the horizon, carrying wonders from such a land as this or Halruaa, and so it is included herein."

The Great Rift ia on the map and merits the following mention on page 77, the third and final short paragraph in the e try for the Shaar:

"The region known as Eastern Shaar is sparser and less green, more of a wasteland. Within the Eastern Shaar is a huge cleft or canyon, known as the Great Rift, home to many southern dwarves."

Luiren and Durpar are mentioned on the map but not the text, and Dam rather has nothing.

So, all told, I really do expect the Beyond section of this book will have more on these places than the Grey Box did.

I do have to wonder if we'll see some stuff on Lantan; at least more than the sentence or two it received previously.

 

[Parmandur]

If they group southern Faerun and northern Zakhara together, they could easily do a pair of Great Sea sourcebooks that cover the same amount of ground as the (northern) Faerun sourcebooks.

Yeah, actually it seems that math is exactly right: the "Beyond" section of Southern Faerûn plus Zakhara is pretty much exactly the same size as this map.

I think a Middle-Eastern/South Asian inspired Setting book centered on the Great Sea would be great.

I do have to wonder if we'll see some stuff on Lantan; at least more than the sentence or two it received previously.

Very possible, it might fit in the Trackles Sea region.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Really looking at the map and comparing it to the 3e map.

Heartlands contains not just Sembia, Cormyr, Dalelands, but also Dragoncoast & Moonsea cities except Mulmaster. It also has the Citadel of the Raven. This seems to be the home turf of Zhents and Purple Dragon Knights faction.

Swordcoast surprisingly does not contain Neverwinter, High Forest, Silver Marches, or Long Saddle that is in the North Region. It does include Waterdeep and Baldur's Gate, going as far south as Neskel. Also includes the nation of Eltanguard toward the east. Also includes the Warlock's Crypt. Alot of different natural environments. Feels like the North got more of the Swordcoast then the Swordcoast did.

The Forgotten Lands is huge, by far the most nations. It Vaasa, Impiltur, Damara, Narfell, Mulmaster, The Vast, Thesk, The Great Dale. This one regional section I think will need to be bigger. Which is fine, because Anauroch with just the desert& High Glacier and possibly Shade reborn won't take as much space.

Arcane Empires Thay seems to have eater some of Mulhorand's territory, including sadly Sultim. Not sure why Altumbel is considered part of the Arcane Empires, its not know for its Arcane Magic.

Depending on the map,