FR: Players Guide to Faerun is out what do you think?

[Felon]

Let's focus on the other aspects of the book.

OK, go. Shoot. Start talking about another aspect. Folks, instead of just saying "let's change the subject already!", go ahead and change the darn subject already.

I'll give a push. Are there any new cleric domains? Are any of the old domains revised significantly? I remember scalykind used to suck. Is scalykind any better now?

(see that's how you do it)

 

[Nightfall]

I did my best. I still figure Orcus deserves intermediate godhood if only cause Kiaranselee deserves to fry. And yes he was since the whole Bloodstone trilogy was a major part of the FR mythos.

 

[reiella]

OK, go. Shoot. Start talking about another aspect. Folks, instead of just saying "let's change the subject already!", go ahead and change the darn subject already.

I'll give a push. Are there any new cleric domains? Are any of the old domains revised significantly? I remember scalykind used to suck. Is scalykind any better now?

(see that's how you do it)

The new initiate feat/spell system I like alot. It returns some of the fun of the Specialist Clerics from 2e, although they may be a bit more than over powered.

Scaleykind loses Creeping Doom, and gets Vipergout instead. Not a significant change, and one that may well actually hurt the domain as a whole.

 

[JoeGKushner]

Sorry if I kept repeating myself with the change but it's more than likely that no one is suddenly going to stand up and shout, "Yes, your point of view is valid and I don't have to challenge it here and continue to defend my own point of view!" Not going to happen.

For me, I tried to steer it in a new direction.

1. Harper PrCs. I remember that there used to be a few of these suckers scattered through different FR books. How many are there in this book?

2. Monsters and Templates. As this is a player focused book, are there any monsters and templates? New familiars or updated familiars?

3. Monk PrCs. I haven't seen a whole lot of 3.5 Monk PrCs. I haven't got the SL book on Monks/Paladins and while the Beyond Martial Arts book (print version 3.5) does have some interesting aspects, I'm always interested in more vareity in my monks.

4. Psionics. How well are psionics now put into the game? Are there any psionic gods and minions over different aspects of psionic powers?

 

[reiella]

Sorry if I kept repeating myself with the change but it's more than likely that no one is suddenly going to stand up and shout, "Yes, your point of view is valid and I don't have to challenge it here and continue to defend my own point of view!" Not going to happen.

For me, I tried to steer it in a new direction.
1. Harper PrCs. I remember that there used to be a few of these suckers scattered through different FR books. How many are there in this book?

2. Monsters and Templates. As this is a player focused book, are there any monsters and templates? New familiars or updated familiars?

3. Monk PrCs. I haven't seen a whole lot of 3.5 Monk PrCs. I haven't got the SL book on Monks/Paladins and while the Beyond Martial Arts book (print version 3.5) does have some interesting aspects, I'm always interested in more vareity in my monks.

4. Psionics. How well are psionics now put into the game? Are there any psionic gods and minions over different aspects of psionic powers?

1) One, the Harper Scout is now the Harper Agent, and has been heavily reworked.

2) Some new familiars, although not significantly more than already in hte DMG and the FRCS.

3) One 'expilcitly', but a good number of the PrCs state monks are known to take that prc. But they're more "warrior"/"pious" type PrCs than monk specifically. It's also rather ... dark.

4) Not well at all, one PrC, and some organizations. Coupled with a confusing statement (if compared against the 3.0 Psi definition of Magic-Psionic Transparency). Nothing else.

 

[Haffrung Helleyes]

EK balance

Well, if an Eldritch Knight is balanced without the fighter level, then why doesn't WoTC just remove the 'proficient in all martial weapons' clause from it? Would you agree that the EK class is balanced in that case?

Ken

Except that the wiz10/ek10 will on average have 30 or so less hps, have to deal with arcane spell failure if they wish to wear armor (not as big a deal), have a lower caster level, and lack the clerics few key buffs that allows it to easily pass between a caster and martial roll. So even with only a one docked caster level, you will only be a suboptimal caster and crappy fighter. Quicken Spell can help somewhat, but if the best you can handle is to fling 5th level spells at 20th level while shooting off the crappy ranged attack (you'd make an awful tank), I wouldn't be worried.

 

[Alzrius]

I did my best. I still figure Orcus deserves intermediate godhood if only cause Kiaranselee deserves to fry. And yes he was since the whole Bloodstone trilogy was a major part of the FR mythos.

If Orcus had been an Intermediate god, there was no way Kiaransalee, that uppity little demipower, would ever have managed to kill him in the first place.

As it is, if WotC were willing to give Orcus his due, things would be getting interesting, since Lolth's Silence has caused Kiaransalee to experience an influx of worship that's since bumped her up to a Lesser deity (which is Orcus's divine level..presuming he has one).

And you just know there would be a reckoning; Kiaransalee calls her realm in the Demonweb Thanatos, having named it after the place she took from Orcus.

 

[Alzrius]

Heh, yeah.

I'm interested in hearing about the "history" updates in this book.

Have they incorporated the events from the various novels, such as the 1,000 Orcs book with Drizzt in it?

I believe that one of the greatest strengths of FR is the history and I looking forward to hear about the current events in FR. Anything in there that could be considered a Realms-Shattering-Event?

As Reiella said, the only two plot-thread updates are for the Return of the Archwizards and the War of the Spider Queen. Neither offer anything crunchy (which was a major disappointment, since I wanted stats for the alchemical substance that burns through stone), and there was only a little bit of information on how to work these into an ongoing campaign.

The two updates basically just reiterated things from the novels, which was rather frustrating, because Shadow Weave Magic, as protrayed in Troy Denning's Return of the Archwizards series, is rather different from how it's presented in the rest of the PGtF and FRCS. (There was also a minor error made in the summarizing of the last part of book III of the War of the Spider Queen).

 

[Silveras]

2. Monsters and Templates. As this is a player focused book, are there any monsters and templates?

The updates to many, many monsters from FRCS, Monsters of Faerun, Silver Marches, and Faiths and Pantheons are in a web enhancement on the WotC site.

 

[HiLiphNY]

Good grief. . .I saw it, browsed it, and here we go again - it's another 3.5 "revision" that might as well be a second printing. . . .sheesh wizards. Well, there's always hope for the Serpent Kingdom. . . I put my faith in Greenwood.

Can we hurry up and get to 4.0?