Full round attacks and delaying an action.

[JacktheRabbit]

Is this legal?

Mr 6th level fighter has two attacks per round. He steps up to the enemy wizard and attacks him once. He then holds his second attack and says that he will attack an object on anything the wizard pulls out into his hands.

Is this legal? I see nothing wrong with it. The fighter will lose that 2nd attack if the wizard takes a 5ft step or casts a verbal only spel on him.

 

[Murrdox]

Nope, not legal

You can't "save" your extra attacks.

By making one attack, the fighter has taken a standard action instead of a full-round action to attack.

However, readying an action is a standard action, and the fighter can't take two of those a turn, unless he's hasted.

He can move up to the wizard and hold ALL his attacks to do this though.

 

[AuraSeer]

Sorry, can't do it.

The fighter is preparing to react when the wizard does something. That's Readying, which is a standard action. You only get one standard action in a round, which means the fighter cannot Ready a strike and also take a regular attack.

 

[AuraSeer]

He can move up to the wizard and hold ALL his attacks to do this though.

No, that doesn't work either. You can only Ready a partial action, which only allows a single attack.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

Sounds like a dumb rule. It is time for a house rule.

A fighter with multiple attacks doesnt have to aim that all at the same person so there is no reason why he cannot make a full round attack and set one of them as a ready action.

 

[Skinwalker]

If I remember correctly, the only way a 5th level fighter would have multiple attacks (because he would not hit BAB +6/+1 until 6th level) is if he were Hasted or using two weapons. If he were Hasted, this seems a valid application of the extra partial action. If he is using two weapons, this should fail as it requires a full attack action.

 

[Murrdox]

Sounds like a dumb rule. It is time for a house rule.

A fighter with multiple attacks doesnt have to aim that all at the same person so there is no reason why he cannot make a full round attack and set one of them as a ready action.

Ummm... since when can you use your multiple attacks to target different opponents? As far as I know, the only times you can attack multiple targets with a full round attack is with Whirlwind, Cleave, Circle Kick or other similar feats.

A Fighter with a +15/+10/+5 attack bonus can't say "Okay, I use my +10 attack against the cleric, then I use my +10 on his undead buddy who's flanking me, then I use my +5 on the Cleric's fighter friend. However, if he was hasted, he could use his extra partial action to attack a different target.

You have to pick one target.

 

[Enkhidu]

Sounds like a dumb rule. It is time for a house rule.

A fighter with multiple attacks doesnt have to aim that all at the same person so there is no reason why he cannot make a full round attack and set one of them as a ready action.

Doc,

From you're tone, and also from what you've posted in the General Forum about this tidbit, you've already made your mind up. That's cool.

I do strongly suggest that you do something to make everyone at your table feel a bit better about it, though. This goes for anytime you decide to rule 0 something.

Take a few minutes and make a list of houserules in effect for your game. Include this new rule 0 - that way the players can't say they weren't warned about it.

Now here's the fun part: don't comment on the list of houserules. Don't bring up the one you will be using on your players. If they're on the ball enough to figure it out, more power to them, but don't do their work for them. THen use your new house rule with ipunity, and whack 'em.

It'll make the players happier.

 

[guido1999]

Murrdox,

A fighter performing the full attack action can use his attacks against different opponents.

From the SRD:

A character does not need to specify the targets of a the attacks ahead of time. A character can see how the earlier attacks turn out before assigning the later ones.

So, yes, if a fighter has 3 attacks per round then he can attack 3 different opponents, using the full attack action.

 

[Enkhidu]

Ummm... since when can you use your multiple attacks to target different opponents? As far as I know, the only times you can attack multiple targets with a full round attack is with Whirlwind, Cleave, Circle Kick or other similar feats.

A Fighter with a +15/+10/+5 attack bonus can't say "Okay, I use my +10 attack against the cleric, then I use my +10 on his undead buddy who's flanking me, then I use my +5 on the Cleric's fighter friend. However, if he was hasted, he could use his extra partial action to attack a different target.

You have to pick one target.

Not true. I can't quote book, chapter, and verse on the subject, but you can split up iterative attacks however you would like, even using your 5' step in between them.

Enk - who wishes he had his books with him.

[edit]And is glad guido does...[/edit]