So, speculation with supporting evidence?
Future of D&D Miniatures
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So, speculation with supporting evidence?
avin
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Which part you guys think is speculation?
The Heroscape stuff using DDM resculpts is fairly old news...
As for 5E without minis, only if is heavily focused on tokens, I believe... and this is speculation, of course
Speculation is in bold:
Hasbro owns Heroscape and D&D minis. The D&D minis line is seen as competition for Heroscape and the D&D minis do not sell as well. D&D minis are currently going onto Heroscape bases and sold as Heroscape minis in a trial period. If its a success with the Heroscape people D&D minis will be no more and the models will be made for Heroscape.
I mean, regardless of the futures of the respective lines, using DDM sculpts for Heroscape is just good business sense. If you have a critter you want to make for Heroscape that resembles an existing one in DDM, it's silly to pay for a new sculpt and molds.
[Edit: Removed paragraph doubting whether the mythos of D&D could work with Heroscape, since apparently there is a full-scale crossover planned... still, doesn't mean one line will be killed off outright.]
As for 5E without minis, only if is heavily focused on tokens, I believe... and this is speculation, of course
Anything about 5E is speculation at this point. Even if it comes straight from WotC brass.
But tokens... mm. Is there really that much profit to be had in selling tokens? If not, then 5E has a strong incentive to support combat without minis. (Not exclusively, mind you. D&D has supported battlemat combat since before it was D&D and probably always will. But a game that can be played with or without battlemat is a different beast from a game that essentailly demands one.)
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Alaxk Knight of Galt
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As for 5E without minis, only if is heavily focused on tokens, I believe... and this is speculation, of course
5E will be token driven? So I'll have to play it at the local arcade? Boy, 5E sounds way too video-gamey for my taste....
*Ducks*
5Ed will be token driven?
We black gamers will finally be getting the respect we deserve!
*tap tap*
What?
*whisper whisper*
Oh...not THAT kind of token?
Nevermind.
In all seriousness, even if DDM dies off and HeroScape becomes the sole source of D&D minis, I'm fine with that...as long as you can still buy them separately.
I'd hope that they'd still include DDM/D&D stat cards with them though.
We black gamers will finally be getting the respect we deserve!
*tap tap*
What?
*whisper whisper*
Oh...not THAT kind of token?
Nevermind.
In all seriousness, even if DDM dies off and HeroScape becomes the sole source of D&D minis, I'm fine with that...as long as you can still buy them separately.
I'd hope that they'd still include DDM/D&D stat cards with them though.
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MortonStromgal
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Does this help?
[fact]Hasbro owns Heroscape and D&D minis. The D&D minis line is seen as competition for Heroscape and the D&D minis do not sell as well. D&D minis are currently going onto Heroscape bases and sold as Heroscape minis [end fact] [pretty solid rumor]in a trial period. If its a success with the Heroscape people D&D minis will be no more and the models will be made for Heroscape.[end pretty solid rumor] [speculation]Which adds a new question of will D&D 5e move to hexes because Heroscape is in hexes or will Heroscape move to squares. My guess is D&D will be altered to fit more inline with Heroscape come 5e.[end speculation]
[edit] 5e will almost certainly use minis, Heroscape minis. The finantual benifits from combining D&D and Heroscape are too tempting to pass up. The more you can make D&D into an "advanced" Heroscape, the more you will sell of both with less resources used on both.
[fact]Hasbro owns Heroscape and D&D minis. The D&D minis line is seen as competition for Heroscape and the D&D minis do not sell as well. D&D minis are currently going onto Heroscape bases and sold as Heroscape minis [end fact] [pretty solid rumor]in a trial period. If its a success with the Heroscape people D&D minis will be no more and the models will be made for Heroscape.[end pretty solid rumor] [speculation]Which adds a new question of will D&D 5e move to hexes because Heroscape is in hexes or will Heroscape move to squares. My guess is D&D will be altered to fit more inline with Heroscape come 5e.[end speculation]
[edit] 5e will almost certainly use minis, Heroscape minis. The finantual benifits from combining D&D and Heroscape are too tempting to pass up. The more you can make D&D into an "advanced" Heroscape, the more you will sell of both with less resources used on both.
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Jeff Wilder
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A couple of observations:
One, DDM is, AFAIK, still clinging feebly to life. WotC licensed the administration and design of the game to the DDM Guild. (I'm sure you can still get more information at Hordelings: Miniatures Enthusiasts -- Forums.)
Two, the game was very popular until WotC rolled out the new version, at which point many players -- even fairly hardcore players, like myself -- said, "No, thanks." That was actually the beginning of the end ... but the end isn't (quite) here yet.
Jeff Wilder
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I honestly don't think the first and third mattered. (I barely remember the first, honestly.) Dreamblade was pretty much over, and the game was still healthy (though it did lose some players), when DDM 2.0 was released.
And I'm really not sure that the timing of the rules release mattered, either. (It didn't for me.) But maybe.
