D&D 4E Gaming, Gamers, Dollars, and 4E

When 3.0 was out, I got a lot of the books, because in general I was getting a lot of use out of them. When my gaming group broke apart, I only got the core books for 3.5, because I wasn't playing anymore. With 4e, I'll probably buy the core books and a DDI subscription, and then get any other books based on what use I'll get out of them. I have enough money for one RPG book a month, so I make sure I pick the books of whatever systems and specifics of the book I use the most.
 

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I've played D&D since I was 8 years old. I'm 31 now. I will buy the 3 core books. For sure, no matter what. I will likely not purchase a single other book put out for it. Just as I haven't for 3.0 (only the 3 core) or 3.5 (still don't own a single 3.5 book).

I buy these because I play but mostly I buy them to see what's going on in the game I grew up playing. Less time to play, but with some of the announcements and rumors floating around, I think I'd like to make more time.

I still play other games (mostly M&M) but I utterly hate the idea of MMORPGs. If I purchase a game, that's it, I shouldn't have to shell out monthly bucks to play it as well. Just me. Don't bother flaming, I don't care.

I'm split on the D&DI though. I can see it taking the MMO track, but I can also see it being useful help me play D&D with some old friends. I highly doubt I'm going to convince them to not only purchase the physical books, but the D&DI subscription, plus the electronic copies of the books, just so we can all play the game online. Especially with other, free programs, that basically do the same thing. Sure, no minis, but hey, it's all about the imagination.

All in all, I'm really looking forward to 4th Edition.
 

breschau said:
I've played D&D since I was 8 years old. I'm 31 now. I will buy the 3 core books. For sure, no matter what. I will likely not purchase a single other book put out for it. Just as I haven't for 3.0 (only the 3 core) or 3.5 (still don't own a single 3.5 book).

I buy these because I play but mostly I buy them to see what's going on in the game I grew up playing. Less time to play, but with some of the announcements and rumors floating around, I think I'd like to make more time.

I still play other games (mostly M&M) but I utterly hate the idea of MMORPGs. If I purchase a game, that's it, I shouldn't have to shell out monthly bucks to play it as well. Just me. Don't bother flaming, I don't care.

I'm split on the D&DI though. I can see it taking the MMO track, but I can also see it being useful help me play D&D with some old friends. I highly doubt I'm going to convince them to not only purchase the physical books, but the D&DI subscription, plus the electronic copies of the books, just so we can all play the game online. Especially with other, free programs, that basically do the same thing. Sure, no minis, but hey, it's all about the imagination.

All in all, I'm really looking forward to 4th Edition.

You apparently haven't seen gametable. You have miniatures called pogs. Remember pogs? Those disk like pieces of cardboard? They are made "cutting art" into the program, then you use it as a virtual mini. You move it on the mapped grid and the DM can either hand draw maps, or upload small bit files to use instead. A free program, not easy to figure out how to do the maps and pogs, but there is a forum where you can get a lot of help. Worth figuring out. Oh, and make sure you know your ISP address. Call your internet provider if you don't know how to find it.
 

Irda Ranger said:
On a side note, I'm not judging your gaming purchases (all hobbies involving consensual adults are pretty much beyond anyone's right to judge), but man, I would never spend $450 on an RPG. I don't know how you'd even consider it. I haven't spent that much on D&D 3.5 in seven years. I could probably scrounge up a round-trip ticket to London for that much, and spend an equal amount trawling half a dozen cities in Europe using EasyJet and sleeping in hostels. I know it's all personal, but I'd far rather have the latter ...

As I said, miniature wargaming is an expensive hobby. It's not even comparable to RPGs in cost. That $450 is an "all at once" expense if I bujy that full battle company up front. By comparison, I've put together a Dark Angels battle company over the past several months and have spent about that much, but still need to pick up the vehicles. On another note, there will be no Dark Angels Space Marines battle company deal and the look of the DA minis are different from standard space marines.

I've spent probably something like 10:1 on wargames vs. RPGs over the years.
 

Xyxox said:
What I'm wondering is, how are personal gaming economies coming into play with ENWorlders out there and do others also have a potential of letting D&D go completely by the wayside with 4E as I do?
The financial aspect isn't part of the equation for me if I'll buy 4th.ed. material or not. I'll definitely buy the PHB, simply because I am interested in the game mechanics.

I've probably bought about 50% of the entire (old) WoD supplements without ever having played a single WoD game (well, okay, one short session at a Con playing a technomancer...).

The decision, whether I'll use 4th.ed. in actual play depends on other factors: My players' preferences, availability of a German translation, time constraints, etc.
 

I think my spending habits will change significantly after Fourth Edition. But I bet it will be in ways that I can't anticipate right now since I don't know whether I'll like it or not. :)
 

I'm cutting down. I just bought a house, and that's gonna eat a lot of money.

That said, I'll subscribe to D&D Insider, I'll get the core rules for 4e and any other books that really, really stand out ... and I'll buy everything for WFRP and WH40kRPG. I'll start looking into som of WorldWorks products as well, and a couple of boosters for the D&D Minis game just for fun.

That's about it actually. For some, this would mean spending more, but for me, it's spending significantly less.

/M
 

For me the economics will be secondary to whether I can find a consistent gaming group again. I might buy the core books out of curiosity and to just have them if I do get a group again. I won't subscribe to D&DI unless I am playing regularly, and since I use an older Mac, I won't be able to use the virtual tools to join a group online to play with.
 

Xyxox said:
What I'm wondering is, how are personal gaming economies coming into play with ENWorlders out there and do others also have a potential of letting D&D go completely by the wayside with 4E as I do?

It seems at the moment I'll be picking up 4E unless it turns out there is some massive thing they haven't told us about that I dislike hugely. I might or might not pick it up this year; we should be in the middle of another campaign around the time it's released and our campaigns tend to run a little over a year or so.

The only other major hobby I'm into is comics and my comics buying has dropped off hugely in the last three or four years. I don't do miniatures or buy DVDs very often (Netflix takes care of most of my needs there), don't buy CDs (I'm not all that 'into' music as a lot of people; if there's something I really like, I buy it off iTunes and make a CD), so various RPG books are really about the only entertainment expense I have. I might buy, oh, a couple a year depending on what I want.

I did drop a large amount on the entire Eberron line when I started a campaign in it (previously, I just owned the core book). Just got the Monte Cook World of Darkness book a couple weeks ago. I might pick up Changeling, Scion: Hero and Scion: Demigod though I think I could do what I really want to do for those with True20 or Mutants and Masterminds. My next major purchase will be a couple M&M books I want, but that should be it for the rest of the year.
 

Xyxox said:
What I'm wondering is, how are personal gaming economies coming into play with ENWorlders out there and do others also have a potential of letting D&D go completely by the wayside with 4E as I do? I admit, the D&D Insider component sounds intriguing and could keep me involved with the game as I would use virtual minis, but my gaming dollars are finite and I can spend on only so much material.
Unlike you, I have no need of WotC's Digital Initiative service. So my money ain't going there.

And with the prices of gamebooks are increasing (and not my income), I have to be more selective in my purchase.

The other pressure is my gaming group. They may have something that I do not currently own, and I personally loathe borrowing from others, even though they are willing to share ... IF they're not using it to prep their own campaign.
 

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