Gaming W/Jemal - Epic Mortal Kombat (Character creation.)

[Avalon®]

The gamebreakers like Punpun and the Hulking Hurler and co.

 

[Jemal]

OH, yeah that's what I was talkign about.

no uber-charger, Twice-betrayed of Sharn, PunPUn, etc.

 

[Shayuri]

Arr, thanks for feedback. I'll knock my head around and see what I can come up with as far as a non-caster fighter goes. Sadly, someone already grabbed Shifter...cuz that woulda been my next choice. Hee. Well done, sir.

 

[Lord_Raven88]

Brother A -
Well, personally I think that if the item makes sense, then it's ok. But you'd have to wear it in a form that works on the bear, too. (IE BOOTS wouldn't automatically translate, neither would gloves/gauntlets. Rings wouldn't work, Armour would need the 'wild' ability, but Bracers, Anklets(instead of boots), Necklace(Collar?), Vest, Cape shouldn't be a problem.

LR - OOOH, scarey. I've seen some nasty stuff with them.

Avalon - Sure, and as for 'theoretical' builds, what do you mean?

Well I've actually got three possible concepts that would be pretty fun

1. Tauric Halfling/Blink Dog: The ultimate sneaky fighter
2. Feral Winged Human Barbarian/Warlock: Death from above
3. Feral Barbarian / Pyrokitetist/ Soul Eater: Melee bad-@rse

Do you have any preferences from the above.

 

[moritheil]

As for the Epic ruling, I usually count LA last, after all the HD are factored in.

Moritheil - Solars, Balors, and Dragons, when played correctly, KICK ASS.
(Plus, how freaking cool are they?)
OH, and the BEST high LA template to add to pretty much anything... PARAGON.

Ha. I was mostly thinking about how most outsiders seem to only have 12 or so HD at ECL 20 when I made that post. At that point, they have neither the attack bonuses of a straight 20 fighter type, nor the caster level a pure caster needs to break through SR. I'll take your word for it that they kick ass, though.

 

[Shayuri]

Mori, check out the stats on the Trumpet Archon in Prevention.

I believe the rogues gallery is up as Epic Problem or something like that.

ECL 30 Trumpet Archon, and his combat stats are actually better than my dragon's! It can be done...though it might be a lot harder at lower ECL's.

** You know what might be fun? Epic Psuedodragon. A former familiar that learned magic from his boss...who then passed away, leaving all his lewt to his familiar. HMMM.

ALL TREMBLE BEFORE THE MIGHTY DRACOMAGE...BUTTERWINKS!!

 

[Voidrazor]

Ooh! I'd love to do an epic warrior. One of the things that kind of annoys me about D&D is that at higher levels, one is 'forced' towards playing casters from an optimization POV. Er, come to think of it I'll probably still splash in some low level magic/psioncs anyway :\ . Would manuevers (from Tome of Battle) over 4th level be allowed?

Offhand, I'm thinking of playing an Anthropomorphic Elephant Crusader/Legendary Dreadnought.

 

[moritheil]

Mori, check out the stats on the Trumpet Archon in Prevention.

I believe the rogues gallery is up as Epic Problem or something like that.

ECL 30 Trumpet Archon, and his combat stats are actually better than my dragon's! It can be done...though it might be a lot harder at lower ECL's.

Yeah, trumpet archons have +10 str and +16 con, and +6 to most other stats, IIRC. I went through once and noticed that their ability mods are MUCH better than other comparable LA archons, and better than most angel ability mods as well.

The main thing that bugs me about archons in general is that their teleport is Su, not Sp, which means that depending on how a DM rules things it may be impossible to ever get quickened teleport. (The quickshift spell has wording that could be interpreted to allow it, but no Quicken SLA.)

 

[crazy_monkey1956]

Now that I think about it, I think I shall have to bow out. I'm really just a start from level 1 kind of guy.

Thanks.

 

[Avalon®]

Jemal, would you allow the use of the thri-keen (MM2 version)?