Gaming W/Jemal - Epic Mortal Kombat (Character creation.)

[Autumn]

Okay, I'm back from my trip and getting a character statted up for this is now my priority. Should hopefully have something for you to look at by the end of tomorrow.

 

[Shayuri]

Heya Jemal, what do you think about dragon PrC's from Draconomicon? I was looking at the Hidecarved and the Dragon Ascendent in particular. A Very Old silver with 31HD could still fit in 9 levels of Ascendent, which might be a lot more survivable than just being a 40HD Great Wyrm. Lemme know...

 

[Darimaus]

Darimaus - Hmm, last time I heard about that character, it was a Halfling with permanent Reduce Person..
All the stuff you listed is OK, but I won't allow Arms of the Naga to let you make weapon attacks via multiweapon fighting, if that's what you're planning.
An Item (Regardless of cost) that gives you an extra TWO sets of full attacks @ Epic seems wrong to me.

You seem to have misunderstood. A psuedodragon isn't documented to have any hands (or in that case claw attacks). Because of that, it "can" be constued that even while using its tail as an arm it still doesn't make the prereques for having 3 hands. The arms of the naga would simply be used to make the prereques for the other two hands. Realistically though, if you think a dragon can use items with its claws, I don't even have a problem at all.

As for actual stats, constuction begins tonight.

 

[Voidrazor]

'Lesser' Voidmind
+4 improvement to Natural Armor
Spell Resistance of 10 + HD
Combat Reflexes as a bonus feat
+4 Racial bonus on Intimidate checks.
Str +4
Dex +2
Con +2
Int +2
Cha –2
Immunity to Acid, Mind-affecting Effects, Ability Damage, Ability Drain, & Energy Drain
The (DM controlled) Elder Brain can give the voidmind creature basic commands (no save or SR), such as “Come here,” “Go there,” “Fight,” and “Stand still.” It knows what the voidmind is experiencing but doesn't receive direct sense impressions.

Please let me know what else, if anything, would need to be dropped to fit the template into a +1 LA. Also, could my cohort take the Fiend of Possession PrC from the back of the Fiend Folio so long as it doesn't get the control creature ability?

 

[moritheil]

I want to see character sheets ASAP, btw. Any of you who've gamed with me before know I'm impatient to get moving on stuff, and this is no exception.

I really hate to do this, but due to RL taking up more time than I anticipated, I'm probably going to have to bow out. I can barely keep my own campaign afloat, and that obligation comes first. On the plus side, it looks like you have no shortage of players. Have an awesome campaign!

 

[Solarious]

Solarious - I'm gonna say no to the Void Incarnate this time through. Last time I had one, they were a bit of a pain.
As for allowed books for shapes, if it's not in the Core, ask, b/c the only creatures your character is assumed to know about (regardless of Level) are the 'basic' core beasts. And just having a high Knowledge check doesn't mean you don't have to ask for others, b/c some of them may not EXIST in this universe. (Like, for instance, ANYTHING out of Serpent Kingdom)

And btw, there's actually a few of us who enjoy Epic level number crunching/Optimization. I find it to be almost as fun as the gaming itself.

I know that number crunching can be a rewarding and exciting pastime... I should know, having statted up a number of monsters specificly to make characters suffer greatly (Dialexis, the First Among Astraloths and Korliac, of the Grey Flame are two of my babies ). It's just that the sheer amount of crunching... and seeing the talents of other players firsthand who clearly have more talent, knowledge, and experience at this kind of game is daunting. I mean, there is making effective characters, and there is creating RAW overdeities at level 4. The time limit doesn't help a great deal either. Being an Epic minnow in a sea of Epic whales is hard.

Anyways, if I might ask, what happened the Void Incarnate last time you allowed them? I'm curious as to how they made your life difficult... they seem somewhat underpowered, frankly.

 

[Darimaus]

BTW, heres another point I've been looking for but haven't found yet. Do you allow the switching of item slots/combining items at the appropriate costs? As well, do you allow things like skill boosting items, or are you altogether banning the Item Creation Chart?

 

[Autumn]

Hmmm. Some time spent on my character is rapidly convincing me that Epic number crunching may not be my pastime of choice.

I can see where the appeal lies, but I fear that for me right now it's just feeling like a real grind. So I guess that means that I should also bow out. It's too bad, because this really looks like a fun game, but I just don't think that I'm suited for it. Or at least I'm not in the mood to be doing it at the moment, which is roughly the same thing.

Have fun guys, I'll be reading along with interest!

 

[Jemal]

Moritheil/Autumn - Sorry to hear that. Have fun, and seeya later.

Darimaus - I don't think Pseudodragons can manipulate weaposn with their claws, but I had thought that's why you were using the "gloves of Man".

Voidrazor - Lesser Voidmind would be acceptable as a +2 LA, to get it to +1, you'd have to drop a couple things... I mean, the SR and Immunities alone are worth 1 LA, even with the drawbacks. The +4 nat armour, bonus feat, and Stat mods are another 1 LA
Also be warned that there may be some... Imperial... er, I mean Illithid entanglements during the campaign.

No Fiend of Possession.

Shayuri -I'm rather partial to those, the Dragon Ascendant in particular (The Sea was a 40HD Silver Dragon With 12 lvls in Dragon Ascendant)

Solarius - Anything can be a pain depending on how it's used, but the Void Incarnate is just naturally painful to DM. By lvl 10, they've got Improved Easion & Mettle(Fort/Will). With a good Reflex save (And Dextrous fort/will), this makes them essentially immune to anything that allows a save.
Add that to their existing immunity to force effects, mind affects, and divinations, as well as their Freedom of Movement(Immunity to grapples) and Void Presence. THEN, take into account that all of these powers are EXTRAORDINARY!
Definitely NOT Underpowered. I call them the "can't touch this" class. Not too much on the offense, but with the sneak attack 1/round, just pump your rogue levels non-epic, Dual-wield Keen Kukri's, and get something that lets you sneak attack & Crit constructs/undead.
[sblock=rant]Worst I ever saw, though, was a guy who combined them with Kensai, and one other "secret ingredient". The end result was that he could make a concentration Check (Very easy to pump) vs anything that allowed a save, and if he made it, nothing happened.
If he'd had more levels he would've added legendary dreadnought for the 'unstoppable' part, which then allows you to make a save (at +20) vs something that doesn't NORMALLY allow a save.[sblock]

BTW, heres another point I've been looking for but haven't found yet. Do you allow the switching of item slots/combining items at the appropriate costs? As well, do you allow things like skill boosting items, or are you altogether banning the Item Creation Chart?

Yes I allow switching Item slots and combining items, though keep in mind the +50% cost.
As for the item creation chart, it's a no-go, except for Skill Boosters. All skill boosters must either be in an appropriate slot, or cost extra (I consider Rings as appropriate for any skill booster). Max +40 item, and after +20 they're considered epic (X10 cost).

 

[Avalon®]

Jemal, can I use this item?

Ring of Solar Wings (118,000 gp) - Gain fly speed 150 ft. (good maneuverability). If it is removed while the wearer is in flight, the wearer floats to the ground as per the feather fall spell.