Gaming W/Jemal: Planar Quest! (Closed)

[Jemal]

BF -
Me likey.

Also keep in mind that the dragoon from the Eternal Empire IS one of the Kadrath dragoons, he was just undercover, undermining the empire for Dormith and destroying Mei-Ling's order so he could try to get the Power for himself. I suggested that one b/c that's a good reason for him to have learned stealthy/ninja stuff, as opposed to the others who're more combat/magic oriented.

Scott - Yes that was helpful, but I don't think it's allowed to post text in full if it's not from an open source book (And I don't think the spell compendium is).

Shayuri - So the spell seems to be pretty much what I thought it would be, which is a bit problematic. As I said to someone else here re: an item a while back, I have problems with incorporeality in the hands of PC's, every time It's caused me headaches. I'd prefer if you took something else.


I will have to postpone the IC a little actually, I need to talk to D'raven about some stuff.

 

[Scott DeWar]

I like it.

 

[Scott DeWar]

Scott - Yes that was helpful, but I don't think it's allowed to post text in full if it's not from an open source book (And I don't think the spell compendium is).

I will clear out the text to protect the integrity of EN World.

 

[Shayuri]

Oh, I missed that. My apologies, Jemal. I'll keep looking.

 

[Binder Fred]

It was in the context of Ur's Ring of Metal and Stone, specifically its Earth Glide component (which Jemal has kept the right to take away should it prove unbalancing/plot breaking).

What about the Pizair/Frozen Bones idea, [MENTION=4936]Shayuri[/MENTION] (see my last post)? Thoughts?

 

[Binder Fred]

Uploaded a picture of Ur as he stood in the Eternal Empire. The rune on his forehead only *seems* to be the chinese character for "Dragon" in this picture (). It's actually the Celestial rune for "Thunderer", one of Thor's numerous holy names. The tree stands for Deep Roots, Stability and Regeneration. The kneepads stand for coolness.

EDIT= Probably took those off Iridex or one of his lieutenants, actually -- though, to the best of everyone's knowledge, they are utterly non-magical.

 

[Shayuri]

Oh yeah actually. Forgot to post. Hee.

Well going by my original concept for Pizair, calling him an 'ally' is a bit of a stretch. I envision him as a mysterious being with an agenda of his own which is perhaps arguably a little sinister (balor eye? angel tongue?) but who's skills make him invaluable. Mei-Ying has done business with him, but he's not someone that you ask favors of, or aid from, lightly.

I expect he would have Mei on his list of 'good customers,' but that's as close to an ally as I'd think we could call him.

 

[Jemal]

Yeah what shay says is the same vibe I was getting too - Mysterious master-crafter.
If you did want him worked in somehow to the Chariot that could make sense, perhaps they helped him out with something and - not liking being in their debt - He forged the chariot for them as thanks, and now considers them square. Though he may have some more respect for them now, he's by no means an 'ally'.

Shayuri - If you don't want PaO, I'd suggest Polar Ray or Horrid Wilting for combat spells, or Telekinetic Sphere for defense.
Alternately, don't forget you can always learn a lower level spell in place of that, so if there's any 6th or 7th lvl spells you'd like to know instead..

BF - Just a thougt re: the kneepads. You could make them your 'bag of stuff'.. One kneepad being the storage section, the other being the 'random stuff' section, that'd be kinda neat. Mechanically the same thing, just.. amusing.



IC should be heading up soonish, making a couple minor changes to the 'invitations' I spoke of in my earlier post.
Also, added the background info I posted to the Rogue's gallery so it'll be easier to find later.

 

[Jemal]

http://www.enworld.org/forum/playing-game/331962-gaming-w-jemal-planar-quest-ic-prologue.html

THAR SHE BLOWS

 

[Shayuri]

I'd like Pmorph Any Object, but there's some contention...so here's my proposal.

How about we make a customized version of Polymorph Any Object, that has some code changes to make it specific to your campaign's rules? We'll remove it's ability to affect creatures and remove the spells that can target creatures from its list of spells it can emulate.

We can then, to keep it 8th level, perhaps consider some increased ability when affecting objects. For example, perhaps we allow some utility to transmute objects into valuable materials, with limits? Here are some possibilities:

Transmutation Without A Circle: Using Pmorph Any Object to change objects into valuable materials invokes a law of equivalent exchange; gold piece value cannot be spontaneously created, but it can be altered. To change a sword into adamantine, one would have to use a normal sword AND other materials that equal the value of an adamantine sword. This would make the spell the equivalent of a 'portable shop' for any object that doesn't involve magic and enchantment...which at these levels is most of them, really. Cold Iron would still be off limits, since it's not the material that makes that unique, but rather the manner by which it is harvested and processed.

No Cheating! Well, maybe a little: Transmuting an object into a substantially more valuable object reduces the duration factor, and prohibits permanence. I'd suggest using the rules for Major Creation as a good guideline. A spellcraft check of fairly easy DC allow someone to spot 'faked' valuables, meaning that it can't be used to defraud a canny merchant. Further, using the spell to attempt fraud would be a criminal and unlawful act.

Simplify, simplify, simplify: No new special rules. Rather, we simply add a few spells to the list of spells that can be emulated to replace the ones lost. Major Creation, Fabricate, and perhaps something like Wall of Stone or similar "change stuff into other configuration" type spells would be under consideration.

And if none of these ideas appeal, I'll just take Horrid Wilting. Maybe reskin it as something less gruesome though.