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[Gen Con 04] The Insane Game - Updated 8/15/03!

NiTessine said:
Well, this is certainly an interesting idea... If I can make it to GenCon, I'll be definitely playing.

Teflon Billy's idea sounds the best, thus far. It'd strike a nice balance between combat and roleplaying. What one group does in Scene 1 affects what another group will have to deal with in Scene 2. Say, Group A, the city watch group, arrests a thief in Act 1, and Group B, the thieves' guild group, will receive word that their spy was caught by the guards in the next scene...

Oooh, what if each group had more PCs under control than players? And each PC had an important mission, and the players had to determine which PC were played, and which were NPCed?

Then the thieves guild group could yell damn! I knew we should have played that guy!

OK, weird, brainstorming idea, but I think it might work.

And this extravaganza needs a name

PS
 

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Storminator said:


Oooh, what if each group had more PCs under control than players? And each PC had an important mission, and the players had to determine which PC were played, and which were NPCed?

Then the thieves guild group could yell damn! I knew we should have played that guy!

OK, weird, brainstorming idea, but I think it might work.

And this extravaganza needs a name

PS

I was thinking something similar to this - something where we come up with the factions first, and then create characters for each faction. Of course, that runs into making 100+ characters, all with meta-plot related backstory, connections to other PC both intra- and inter-faction, appropriate gear.

Did I mention I like making characters?
 

Gen Con is my yearly vacation, so I am sure to be there next year. I'd be willing to help with this too. Anything from DMing to being a basic scut-monkey to keep things rolling. Oh and playing is always an option too if you're overloaded on help. :)
 

Ankh-Morpork Guard said:


I think having it at a bar is a VERY bad idea. Even if it's a great place, you're immediatly tossing out any player under 21, which isn't a good thing.

you are right, I forget not everyone is 21.
 

IMHO I would not want a tournament or elimination style. This should be a huge fun get together, not a play off. I will work with it either way, but I want something more fun than a competition.
 
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KnowTheToe said:
IMHO I would not want a tournament or elimination style. This should be a huge fun get together, not a play off. I will work with it either way, but I want something more fun than a competition.

I'm in complete agreement. The tournament/elimination style of games only appeals to a smaller amount of people. An actual adventure set up would appeal to the greatest amount of people...though it will be harder to work out, I think it would be much more worth it in the end.
 

My Two Coppers...

Ah...the gaming Mecca of GENCON...I have no idea if I can make GC '04, but something like this might make it happen :D!

After reading through all the suggestions thus far, here are my humble suggestion(s):

(1) Set-up: Tables of 8, with DM, Asst. DM and 4-6 players, battlemat, egg timer, minis, pens, water and rags. Add-in 4-8 support staff to handle the action matrix, observe the action, etc. Have a "success thermometer" posted in a place easily seen by all (more on this later). Use pre-generated PCs (good mix, core rules only), allow 5-10 mins for character selection at the beginning of the game with everyone rolling a d20 and select in order from highest to lowest (allow a few minutes for horse-trading of PCs at each table). Scenario rules are published in advance for those that sign up (with an extra copy or 2 at each table).

(2)Scences: I think TB is right on with this, but here is how I suggest working it - in 2-3 stages...

Stage 1 - There is a big threat to the kingdom (pick your bad guys - orcs, gnolls, undead, etc). The duke (king, prince or whatever) has issued a call-to-arms to protect the kingdom and each group gets a specific mission (designed to be accomplished in a fairly short period of time) such as:

  • * Scout the enemy forces location (2-3 groups, one for each axis of advance)

    * Diplomatic mission to convince a reluctant baron to provide additional forces (1 group)

    * Protect a supply caravan moving to the city (2-3 groups, each protecting different materials)

    * Hold a key pass to prevent a portion of the {insert enemy} army from linking up with the main force (1-2 groups)

    * Retrieve a minor artifact from an insane wizard (1 group)

    * Convince the thieve's guild to suspend thefts during the crisis (1 group)
The more groups that accomplish their mission, the more resources are available for Stage 2 and/or Stage 3. If groups fail to accomplish their mission, then the "Success Matrix" is not advanced, making the future stages tougher. Use the "Success Thermometer" to keep a running record on how the groups are doing and to build tension.

Use an "If/Then" action matrix or flow chart to determine what happens in subsequent stage(s). The support staff keep the matrix updated with what is going on. PCs that are killed in Stage 1 are dead, put their players can now join the enemy side, taking the part of key NPCs and assisting DMs with combat duties or simply observing. The surviving PCs rally together and then divided (either randomly or to build balanced groups) and given Stage 2 Missions. This allows people to play with a variety of different ENworlders over the course of the adventure. Also, since some the players of the dead PCs will be assisting the DMs by taking the role of key NPCs, the remaining groups could be a bit larger (6-8).

Stage 2 Missions might be:

  • * Counter-attack to take a key bridge, allowing kingdom forces to attack an enemy flank (1 group)

    * Protect an important summoning ritual (1 group)

    * Poison the enemy's water and/or food supply (1 group)

    * Destroy an enemy seige tower or battering ram (2-3 groups)

Additional casualties are likely, with dead PCs switching sides and taking enemy NPC roles. The climax of the event is Stage 3. Depending on attrition in the original PC ranks, there could be enough former PCs playing NPCs to make it pretty much ENworlder vs. ENworlder with the DMs as referees. As in Stage 2, the remaining PCs rally together and are reformed into new groups. The "Success Matrix" and "Success Thermometer" are advanced and the finale begins, with each successful mission providing more goodies and/or advantages for the final stage.

Stage 3 Missions might be:

  • * Hold the breach (1 group)

    * Lead the counterattack (1 group)

    * Attack the enemy command tent (1 group)

The overall success depends on how far the "Success Thermometer" is advanced. My recommendation would be to have the earlier stages count less than the later stages, so success or failure of the final missions determines everything.

A number of awards could be given for those that survive the entire run (I was thinking of a "best RPer" chit given at each stage by either the DM or table acclaimation - Stage 1 chits worth 1 pt, Stage 2 chits worth 2 points and Stage 3 chits worth 3 points). A "first-to-die" award, "best one-liner award" and anything else that can be thought up.

There is a time limit for each stage and groups that fail to meet the stage goal are considered to have failed...this should keep things moving along and prevent the "Hennet shops for a MW belt buckle" type things.

Anyway...my 2 coppers! I can't commit to being there...but I might make it for something like this!

~ Old One
 
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Some more practical details:

- Make sure the room being played in has good acoustics. You don't want to have voices of 50 exited and boisterous players bouncing off the walls if you want to be able to hear *anything*

- Give the DM at each table (and *only* the DM!) a microphone hooked into the PA system, so they can inform everyone else of actions from their table that will affect the larger game world.

- If we're using a timed scenario... make sure you have a soundtrack! Nothing to catch the attention of 50 players like actually *hearing* the volcano explode, or the orcs massing at the gates.

- I would allow people to bring their own PCs, provided they're made within a very strict set of guidelines (e.g. only PHB material, standard array). But also provide a number of pregenerated backup PCs - which don't necessarily need to follow the strict guidelines.
 
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Count me in! I want to DM. I have been thinking of something like this for years. But like what kkokie was saying have players decide if they want to be the heroes or the anti-heroes. I think that would make for a lot of excitement and anticipation especially if there would be some huge climactic battle at the end to see which side wins the day and could make for a starting point for the next gencon('05), making the ENWorld "world" as a yearly event, "see what happens every year at GenCon!" Maybe even some ENWorld scenarios monthly online, not that this would be necessary.
 
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