Gender in Mechanics

[fusangite]

Until I was reading one of the alignment threads, I had thought that all references to gender/sex affecting the mechanics of the game had died with 2E. But then I read that killing the "women and children" of evil races is defined as evil in the Book of Exalted Deeds. Now that males and females are equally martially proficient amongst humanoid races, what do people make of this? And are there other instances when gender affects the game at a mechanical level?

 

[John Q. Mayhem]

Swanmay and its ilk, for one. Drow in 3.0, but I think they changed it in 3.5.

 

[VoiceOfReason?]

The Book of Carnal Knowledge makes multiple references to gender with various spells, prestige classes, magic items, etc. that only work on or for a certain gender, or can only be taken/used by a given gender.

 

[fusangite]

The Book of Carnal Knowledge makes multiple references to gender with various spells, prestige classes, magic items, etc. that only work on or for a certain gender, or can only be taken/used by a given gender.

It's not a WOTC book, though.

 

[Darkness]

Eunuch Warlock in OA.

 

[LeifVignirsson]

It's not a WOTC book, though.

Yes, but you also have to understand that this is no longer an exclusive edition. Now with OGL, anything applies. I believe what BoED meant was "women and children" in the civilian sense, though some good doers would have an issue fighting even women who are their opponents on the field of battle. In all honesty, I would toss it out as far as that goes. With good and evil, it is objective to the people who are viewing it.

Just because it says WotC doesn't mean it is the end all/be all.

 

[Laman Stahros]

Drow in 3.0, but I think they changed it in 3.5.

Nope, still there.

 

[Darkness]

Some organization-based Prestige Classes (and sometimes feats).

E.g.: The FR have at least 2 Witch of Rashemen-specific classes, hathran and durthan (female only). Maybe there was also a class for male (only) spellcasters in Rashemen, I forgot.

Not sure if that counts.

 

[Darkness]

Nope, still there.

True. Males now get +2 Cha too but the genders still have different favored classes.

 

[fusangite]

Yes, but you also have to understand that this is no longer an exclusive edition. Now with OGL, anything applies.

I just didn't want BOEF and the like at the periphery of the hobby overwhelming a discussion of the general standards.

I believe what BoED meant was "women and children" in the civilian sense,

But what is the "civilian sense" in a game that assumes physiologically equal men and women living in societies that do not discriminate in terms of occupations, etc.?