General Discussion Thread IX

[Velmont]

I got a question.

We have establish that characters of a same player cannot trade there things.

I have a character, Rinaldo, who own a shop that buy, sell and pawn items to other characters. Now, I have two others characters. Let's say Ridik, a total stranger to Rinaldo, come to the shop to take advantage of his services.

1. Can Rinaldo's shop buy items to Ridik (at the standard 60% price) ?
2. Can Rinaldo's shop sell items to Ridik (at the standard price, as shown on the item to sold list (Should be around 80%~90%) ?
3. Can Rinaldo's shop offer to pawn an item for Ridik (as the standard prices)?
4. If Ridik can't, as a person, can Ridik's party have access to these services
5. Opale, my other character, is a member of the family and someone near Rinaldo. IC, it would make sense she gets favored price. Could she?

For some questions, I already see the answers, but I want to hear the judge opinion and have something more official before the situation present itself and I find myself in this dilema.

 

[Patlin]

1. Can Rinaldo's shop buy items to Ridik (at the standard 60% price) ?
2. Can Rinaldo's shop sell items to Ridik (at the standard price, as shown on the item to sold list (Should be around 80%~90%) ?
3. Can Rinaldo's shop offer to pawn an item for Ridik (as the standard prices)?
4. If Ridik can't, as a person, can Ridik's party have access to these services
5. Opale, my other character, is a member of the family and someone near Rinaldo. IC, it would make sense she gets favored price. Could she?

1. As currently written, no. I'd be in favor of an exception if anyone walking in off the street can buy and sell at a standard price, though.
2. As 1.
3. Certainly.
4. No, definitely not.

 

[Rystil Arden]

1. As currently written, no. I'd be in favor of an exception if anyone walking in off the street can buy and sell at a standard price, though.
2. As 1.
3. Certainly.
4. No, definitely not.

1. As currently written, no. I'd be in favor of an exception if anyone walking in off the street can buy and sell at a standard price, though.
2. As 1.

I believe that anyone off the street can indeed do so.

By the way, you didn't answer (5), but I would guess that this is even more definitely not than (4).

Since anyone off the street can use the shop (as far as I know), I'm not sure what's keeping (4) as a definitely not--that would seem to be punishing a party who wanted to use the shop for including Ridik: "Well, sorry Ridik, but Rinaldo's shop has a lifelong ban on you, and we were expecting to use it to get some good bargains, so you can't come along this time." Punishing Velmont for being the one who created the shop doesn't seem fair.

 

[Bront]

Patlin, I think you put your answer for 5 for 4, and didn't answer 4.

1) It'd have to be proposed, but currently no. As long as it's no different than any other person.
2) See 1
3) See 1 possibly, but it's realy not dealing with him directly.
4) The rest of the party can, though having them do things in proxy for him still has the same issues as #1.
5) No, definately not. Much like you wouldn't let another player create a "close family friend" to get a discount on items, or does such a background for people who could reasonably explain having discounts or access to extra money actualy do that.

BTW, where is your shop? You sell items at 60% cost and buy them at 80-90? How would you ever make money? Or am I missing something? I couldn't find the thread.

 

[Rystil Arden]

BTW, where is your shop? You sell items at 60% cost and buy them at 80-90? How would you ever make money? Or am I missing something? I couldn't find the thread.

Volume! Haven't you ever read OOTS? Seriously, he lets characters sell items to him for 60% and buy items from him at 80-90%. This means anyone sane in Orussus will always deal with Rinaldo's shop if possible and no others unless the Judges allow the random NPC vendors to lower their prices to competitive amounts, which I don't see happening. Of course, if the old prices really are the lowest the other shops can afford to go, in my games, there would probably be complicated roleplaying issues between Rinaldo and the merchant houses or guilds about the shop

 

[Bront]

Volume! Haven't you ever read OOTS? Seriously, he lets characters sell items to him for 60% and buy items from him at 80-90%. This means anyone sane in Orussus will always deal with Rinaldo's shop if possible and no others unless the Judges allow the random NPC vendors to lower their prices to competitive amounts, which I don't see happening. Of course, if the old prices really are the lowest the other shops can afford to go, in my games, there would probably be complicated roleplaying issues between Rinaldo and the merchant houses or guilds about the shop

His question has people buying at 60% and selling at 80-90%, not the other way around. Selling at 60%, buying at 90%, that's not too bad. It's all normal non-masterwork stuff though, isn't it? One of my PCs is a weaponsmith who does occasional work, but that sort of trumps that idea thoroughly.

Where did the shop thread go?

 

[Rystil Arden]

Can Rinaldo's shop buy items to Ridik (at the standard 60% price) ?

Velmont used the wrong preposition but the correct verb. He meant that the shop buys items for 60% from Ridik.

Can Rinaldo's shop sell items to Ridik (at the standard price, as shown on the item to sold list (Should be around 80%~90%) ?

This one is just as he says. The shop sells items for 80-90% to Ridik.

 

[Bront]

Oh, that's better.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Oh, that's better.

But that's just what Velmont said

I'm such a meddler in the judges' business

 

[Patlin]

Corrected:

1. As currently written, no. I'd be in favor of an exception if anyone walking in off the street can buy and sell at a standard price, though.
2 & 3. As 1.
4. Certainly.
5. No, definitely not.

Ok, let's try that again. I think I was thrown off by the numbers inside the quotes turning into astericks.

The one I failed to answer was acually number 3.

Sorry for the confusion.