George RR Martin Update on his site
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Lord Pendragon
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Another difference is that his stuff sells.takyris said:
Really. Until you've got a few published works under your belt, I don't see how anything you say about the requirements of the craft can be taken seriously.
Pendragon, Taky has published stuff.
And as a (former professional) musician, I should point out that the difference between an amateur and a professional is that the professional gets paid. There's no statement on ability or anything else. The professional just gets paid.
Finally, [moderator hat on] please remember to consider other people and not be rude or sharp when it's not required. Thanks. [moderator hat off]
Dinkeldog --Moderator
And as a (former professional) musician, I should point out that the difference between an amateur and a professional is that the professional gets paid. There's no statement on ability or anything else. The professional just gets paid.
Finally, [moderator hat on] please remember to consider other people and not be rude or sharp when it's not required. Thanks. [moderator hat off]
Dinkeldog --Moderator
SableWyvern
Cruel Despot
Yup. If you've read any of Tacky's stuff, or talked to him at length about writing, you'll find he's perfectly qualified to say what he said.
There's a big gap between someone who just talks about being a professional writer, and someone who acts like one. Takyris is the latter (although, not knowing any better, it's generally a fair bet to assume the former, so I can understand where Lord Pendragon was coming from).
There's a big gap between someone who just talks about being a professional writer, and someone who acts like one. Takyris is the latter (although, not knowing any better, it's generally a fair bet to assume the former, so I can understand where Lord Pendragon was coming from).
Good point, Pendragon. My novel sale count is a big fat ol' ZERO. So I could well be talking out of my butt. Short story sales (of which I currently have 10) are well and good, but they're not going to get me out of the day job, so I shouldn't be casting aspersions. Sorry for being snarky.
I'm not sure why I feel it necessary to come in and make the "writing is not a mystical thing -- hit your deadlines and act like a professional" speech in every GRRM thread. I like the Song of Ice and Fire. I like it a bunch. I'll be buying the next one whenever it comes out.
So, next time a GRRM thread pops up, and somebody says, "It will get done when it gets done -- you can't rush art," I will do my best to shut up.
I'm not sure why I feel it necessary to come in and make the "writing is not a mystical thing -- hit your deadlines and act like a professional" speech in every GRRM thread. I like the Song of Ice and Fire. I like it a bunch. I'll be buying the next one whenever it comes out.
So, next time a GRRM thread pops up, and somebody says, "It will get done when it gets done -- you can't rush art," I will do my best to shut up.
SableWyvern
Cruel Despot
Hey, Tacky, no need to be so hard on yourself.
All you were doing was exhibiting frustration at what is, in most cases, a misunderstanding about how writers do their job. And, like I said, I think you're more than qualified to be making that sort of comment.
Besides, plenty of successful novelists (and writers of all descriptions) have said much the same thing.
All you were doing was exhibiting frustration at what is, in most cases, a misunderstanding about how writers do their job. And, like I said, I think you're more than qualified to be making that sort of comment.
Besides, plenty of successful novelists (and writers of all descriptions) have said much the same thing.
Olgar Shiverstone
Legend
Well, whenever he gets it done, I'll still be frustrated because I'm waiting for the paperback version. I have the others in paperback, and I like my collection to be consistent -- so an extra six-to-eight month wait for me. 
Aside -- I had know idea he was the author of "Sandkings". That was a cool -- and rather disturbing -- story!
Aside -- I had know idea he was the author of "Sandkings". That was a cool -- and rather disturbing -- story!
Alaric_Prympax
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Krieg and Dagger75 summed up my opinion as well. I just want him to finish AFfC so I can read the book and so GOO can finally publish thier game based on ASoIaF.
I'm getting tired of all these delays. There are so many preview chapters and readings from conventions that we might have the entire book, except for the mystery Point of View, before it ever gets published. That's why I have stopped reading them, I don't want to spoil my reading of what I hope will infact be a great feast of a book because I'm starving here!
I'm getting tired of all these delays. There are so many preview chapters and readings from conventions that we might have the entire book, except for the mystery Point of View, before it ever gets published. That's why I have stopped reading them, I don't want to spoil my reading of what I hope will infact be a great feast of a book because I'm starving here!
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Hey Sable,
Thanks. By the way, how is your writing going? You ever get that third act written in your military fantasy story? The novel you helpfully critted is now in the slushpile at Tor, with about 3/4 of the swearing removed and after several moderate to drastic changes to the plot.
Thanks. By the way, how is your writing going? You ever get that third act written in your military fantasy story? The novel you helpfully critted is now in the slushpile at Tor, with about 3/4 of the swearing removed and after several moderate to drastic changes to the plot.
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