Gestalt suggestions

[comareddin]

After going through my newly acquired Eberron stuff and loving the setting, I decided to DM after a long time. I spoke with a friend who said he would play and said would bring someone else. Another of my friends said he might play. So the party was supposed to 2 maybe 3 players. I then said you can use the gestalt rules. I thought they could use the extra options gestalt characters provided given they were so few of them. Then I told some other friends about the setting and suddenly they started to jump right in. With my enthusiasm I couldn't say no so I now have 9 gestalt players. I split the group in half.

I played 1 or 2 player preludes with some of them and I must say even at level one these guys are butchers. If they do that stuff with so little people, a party of 4-5 gestalts will be a killing machine.

So here I am, at EN World, asking for powerful gestalt NPC combos. What I need is only a general concept. Something like fighter/wizard gestalt, after that arcane archer/wizard gestalt, far shot is a must have feat is really fine.

What powerful combos can you come up with using gestalt classes and prcs.

and BTW, it is WotC only.

 

[Thanee]

You could just up the CR of the NPCs by 1 or 2. It's probably easier to use Gestalt only for major NPCs.

Bye
Thanee

 

[comareddin]

You could just up the CR of the NPCs by 1 or 2. It's probably easier to use Gestalt only for major NPCs.

Bye
Thanee

That is my intention. I am too lazy to type or write so many numbers for all those critters. For the casual swordfight I always use stuff I borrow from someone else. All time I spend on prep goes to writing an adventure (mostly) or prepping the sheet of an important NPC.

Com

 

[Kurotowa]

I'm starting a gestalt game this evening, my first. So while I can't testify to their strength these are are few of the PCs that will be in the party.

A Paladin/Marshal.
My Swashbuckler/Scout set to become a Dervish/Scout.
A Cleric/Spirit Shamen.
The Arcane Archer setup you already mentioned.

All seem on paper to be formidable people.

 

[Thanee]

Here are some:

Barbarian|Fighter
Barbarian|Rogue
Fighter|Cleric
Fighter|Rogue
Fighter|Wizard
Paladin|Favored Soul
Paladin|Sorcerer
Monk|Druid
Monk|Fighter
Rogue|Wizard
Warlock|Scout
Wizard|Warmage

Not counting PrC...

I use Gestalt without multiclassing in my game (no PrC either, as an option I would allow one PrC to be used instead of continuing the Gestalt progression, i.e. only one class for those levels then, not two). Makes things a lot more manageable and less complex (also for the players).

Bye
Thanee

 

[pbd]

A couple that may work well together:

Barbarian/Fighter - Barbarian with crazy feats (actually add fighter to any martial build and you get crazy feats)

Monk/Cleric - Monk with spells (Divine power, ouch)

Monk/Druid - Powerful wildshape fighter

Sorc/bard - Spells, songs, and skills

Wizard/rogue - Spells and skills

Ranger/druid - good synergy

Edit - simlupost with Thanee, some are redundant.

 

[Pyrex]

For a slightly more generic list:

Fighter gestalts well with anything. Everyone benefits from having lots of combat feats.

Rogue also gestalts well with anything. Lots of skills=good.

 

[Thanee]

And having the same or similar primary abilities also helps.

i.e. Paladin and Sorcerer both benefit from a high Cha, or Wizard and Warmage both take advantage from a high Int.

Other than that, synergies between the classes are good (i.e. the Warlock's Eldritch Blast and the Scout's Skirmish ability), and avoiding overlaps to a certain degree (like Bard|Rogue would not be such a great combination). The Fighter has a special role here, since it synergizes well with any other combat class despite a huge overlap.

Bye
Thanee

 

[XCorvis]

Here's some from non-core books:

Warforged Paladin/Artificer, possibly with racial substitution levels. Double up on that charisma (even with the penalty) and become an incredibly effective self-buffer.

Melee class/Spellthief - You can fight, sneak attack, have lots of skills AND cast spells!

Hexblade/Spellthief - Double up on Charisma. Swipe spells from the casters, curse the others. Make him a reoccurring character - your PCs will HATE him.

Favored Soul/Paladin - Double up on Charisma and wisdom.

Favored Soul or Sorcerer/Any Cha based spellcaster. Spells, spells, spells.

As mentioned, Warlock/Scout with Hideous Blow is, well, hideous. If a PC tried it, you might try to house rule it. Warlock with any melee class is a force to be reckoned with.

 

[Pbartender]

What powerful combos can you come up with using gestalt classes and prcs.

and BTW, it is WotC only.

I'm playing in a gestalt game right now. Currently, our characters consist of...

A Goblin Rogue/Invisible Blade - Swashbuckler/Fighter.
A Half Gold Dragon Wild Elf Ranger - Fighter/Kensai.
A Drow Warlock - Wizard/Loremaster.
A Gnome Bard - Cleric.
An Elf Fighter - Scout/Order of the Bow Initiate.

Right now, the Goblin and the Half Dragon Wild Elf are our melee combat monsters. 30+ damage in a single attack is not uncommon for either of them.

The Drow and the Elf are excellent artillery backup, and the Gnome is the ultimate support character.