Ghostbusters: Afterlife

Nebulous

Legend
I’m slightly apprehensive about it not being set in New York, which was a character in the other films. It’s one of a few cities in the world with that quality. I’m not sure some random small town can fill in for it.

No. No it can't. It's definitely trying to evoke the Stranger Things small town/kids vibe which is so popular right now. IT too with the small town Derry and kids. It COULD work, but I would also prefer the New York setting. I'm optimistic for this though, I hope it's enough of a hit to relaunch the franchise.
 
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Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
It COULD work, but I would also prefer the New York setting.

See thats something I dont understand, I know that New York is a great character so a good place to tell stories, but I've already seen that story in the first movie trilogy, I dont need to see it recreated.

I like that this sequel is telling a new story with different characters- including the small town.
I hope it doesnt lean to heavily into the Stranger Things vibe, but am excited about expanding the Ghostbusting universe
 

Nebulous

Legend
Ghostbusters was a comedy, but it was also scary to the kids watching it in the 80s. The Real Ghostbusters also accounts for a HUGE chunk of the origin Ghostbusters Fandom, far more than Ghostbusters II really, and that show had some really striking scary stuff amidst the 'Slimer bothers Peter' gags.
I didn't really think about until you mentioned it, but the GB cartoon is - to me- way more satisfying than the official GB 2 movie. I haven't seen it in ages, but I do remember some of the visuals were terrifying. I should look it up on Youtube.
 

Nebulous

Legend
See thats something I dont understand, I know that New York is a great character so a good place to tell stories, but I've already seen that story in the first movie trilogy, I dont need to see it recreated.
I like that this sequel is telling a new story with different characters- including the small town.
I hope it doesnt lean to heavily into the Stranger Things vibe, but am excited about expanding the Ghostbusting universe
I consider the video game Ghostbusters as movie #3 as it had the same actors and Dan Aykroyd wrote it.

It's too early to tell if it will overly lean into Stranger Things. i hope not. It will come down to the writing and the acting. But Paul Rudd will be awesome no matter what.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
See thats something I dont understand, I know that New York is a great character so a good place to tell stories, but I've already seen that story in the first movie trilogy, I dont need to see it recreated.
It’s a character. Why would you not one one of the characters back? Do you not want to see Venkman etc. either?
 


Yeah, it's definitely a bad look, intentional or not. The idea that people forget about and/or sweep this ghost stuff under the carpet would make it easier, if anything. It wouldn't be that hard to have someone Skype with Holtzmann briefly to confer on a bit of tech, or make reference to the Rowan North cover-up.

FYI, the Ghostbusters Remastered PS4 game is on sale in the PS Store for the next two weeks or so for about $18. As stated, it feels a whole lot like a third Ghostbusters film, and is a ton of fun. Until Answer the Call came out (of which I am an unabashed fan), I thought that was going to be it for the franchise.

Just think of the optics on this sequel - it comes on the heels of a contentious fight and you know that there are critics of the 2016 effort who see it as their white knight charging in to restore the masculine honor of the original Ghostbusting crew and their fans against the tides of encroaching feminine appropriation. Or some such naughty word.
 

Undrave

Hero
I didn't really think about until you mentioned it, but the GB cartoon is - to me- way more satisfying than the official GB 2 movie. I haven't seen it in ages, but I do remember some of the visuals were terrifying. I should look it up on Youtube.

Look up the Boogeyman episode! It's a classic!

Yeah, it's definitely a bad look, intentional or not. The idea that people forget about and/or sweep this ghost stuff under the carpet would make it easier, if anything. It wouldn't be that hard to have someone Skype with Holtzmann briefly to confer on a bit of tech, or make reference to the Rowan North cover-up.

FYI, the Ghostbusters Remastered PS4 game is on sale in the PS Store for the next two weeks or so for about $18. As stated, it feels a whole lot like a third Ghostbusters film, and is a ton of fun. Until Answer the Call came out (of which I am an unabashed fan), I thought that was going to be it for the franchise.

The 2016 movie is in a different universe so they're not gonna show up. If they hadn't made it a reboot in the first place we wouldn't be in this position...

I highly HIGHLY recommend the IDW Ghostbusters comic books. They pick up after the video game ('The Rookie' heads the Chicago Branch) and are filled with cool stories, great characterization and cool nods to other incarnations (an incarnation of Kylie from X-Treme Ghostbusters shows up, for exemple) and they eventually cross over with the Answer the Call universe!
 

gyor

Legend
Sauce for the goose and all that. If anything, the 2016 movie's team/backers probably have a better case for complaint. Just think of the optics on this sequel - it comes on the heels of a contentious fight and you know that there are critics of the 2016 effort who see it as their white knight charging in to restore the masculine honor of the original Ghostbusting crew and their fans against the tides of encroaching feminine appropriation. Or some such naughty word.

I'm pretty sure that the principals involved don't see it that way considering the support they gave the 2016 project and cameo appearances (though Jason Reitman has made some boneheaded gaffes), but it does seem a bit of a snub. That said, 2016 being a reboot does kind of take it outside the continuity anyway, so it's not like it can't be understood why it isn't referenced.

No actually they don't, they made the movie hyper political from the beginning and ran the worst PR campaign I've ever seen a movie run. They insulted the fan base, disrespected the IP and then were surprised when the fans turned on them in droves. And movie was a huge flop as a result. They used women as a human shield against reasonable criticism, which was unfair to women. They cherry picked unrepresentive examples from their worst critics, to smear the far more reasonable majority of critics.

And they want this new Ghostbusters to fail not just for petty revenge against the Ghostbusters fans who refused to support their movie in 2016, but because if this one succeeds where the 2016 movie failed, given this one has female ghostbusters as as well, but with a different approach to the IP that is less political, it will expose their accusations of mysgony against the Ghostbusters fandom as the lies they always were and that is what supporters of the 2016 movie fear above all else.
 

Nebulous

Legend
No actually they don't, they made the movie hyper political from the beginning and ran the worst PR campaign I've ever seen a movie run. They insulted the fan base, disrespected the IP and then were surprised when the fans turned on them in droves. And movie was a huge flop as a result. They used women as a human shield against reasonable criticism, which was unfair to women. They cherry picked unrepresentive examples from their worst critics, to smear the far more reasonable majority of critics.

And they want this new Ghostbusters to fail not just for petty revenge against the Ghostbusters fans who refused to support their movie in 2016, but because if this one succeeds where the 2016 movie failed, given this one has female ghostbusters as as well, but with a different approach to the IP that is less political, it will expose their accusations of mysgony against the Ghostbusters fandom as the lies they always were and that is what supporters of the 2016 movie fear above all else.

I just want a good movie :(
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
No actually they don't, they made the movie hyper political from the beginning and ran the worst PR campaign I've ever seen a movie run. They insulted the fan base, disrespected the IP and then were surprised when the fans turned on them in droves. And movie was a huge flop as a result. They used women as a human shield against reasonable criticism, which was unfair to women. They cherry picked unrepresentive examples from their worst critics, to smear the far more reasonable majority of critics.

And they want this new Ghostbusters to fail not just for petty revenge against the Ghostbusters fans who refused to support their movie in 2016, but because if this one succeeds where the 2016 movie failed, given this one has female ghostbusters as as well, but with a different approach to the IP that is less political, it will expose their accusations of mysgony against the Ghostbusters fandom as the lies they always were and that is what supporters of the 2016 movie fear above all else.
Let’s not do this here again, please.
 

I'll agree that making Answer the Call a reboot was probably...unstrategic. But if this one is going with "oh, everybody forgot about the ghosts and Ghostbusters" plot device, there's nothing to stop the current film from roping them back into continuity.

I've heard lots of good things about IDW's Ghostbusters comics. In general, IDW has done very well with their licensed properties.

The 2016 movie is in a different universe so they're not gonna show up. If they hadn't made it a reboot in the first place we wouldn't be in this position...

I highly HIGHLY recommend the IDW Ghostbusters comic books. They pick up after the video game ('The Rookie' heads the Chicago Branch) and are filled with cool stories, great characterization and cool nods to other incarnations (an incarnation of Kylie from X-Treme Ghostbusters shows up, for exemple) and they eventually cross over with the Answer the Call universe!
 

billd91

Hobbit on Quest (he/him)
I'll agree that making Answer the Call a reboot was probably...unstrategic. But if this one is going with "oh, everybody forgot about the ghosts and Ghostbusters" plot device, there's nothing to stop the current film from roping them back into continuity.

I think at the point they made Ghostbusters: Answer the Call, an actual sequel had fallen off the table with Harold Ramis's death and Bill Murray's constant lack of interest. At that point, reboot (with cameos to incorporate the original cast rather than having them reprise their roles) seemed a reasonable thing to do.
 

Gradine

Final Form (they/them)
Yeah, Answer the Call was pretty good. Theatrical release had some weird plotting issues due to cut scenes, but otherwise it was a solid comedy. Kate McKinnon basically stole the show. I was kinda bummed when it only did modestly good at the box office and that meant we weren't gonna get more but at the same time, the first Ghostbusters got a sequel too, and we all know how that went.

Afterlife also looks pretty great, just... I was kind of expecting my comedy sequel/reboot/thing to be a... you know... a comedy? Still too early to say, and Paul Rudd being there helps quite a bit, but this definitely wasn't what I was expecting, tonally, from this trailer.

That said, I care a lot more about quality than genre, so as long as it's good I'm happy.
 

ParanoydStyle

Peace Among Worlds
THAT is entirely inappropriate. What were you thinking? Don't post in this thread again.
I had no idea this was a thing. That will happen when you've pulled the plug and are living with just a few streaming services, not cable.

Ghostbusters was, during my childhood, my absolute very favorite thing. The first thing I wrote, I wrote circa age 4: Ghostbusters fanfiction, dictated to my mom who actually wrote down the words, and "illustrated" (hideously) by my four year old self and that was when I started proceeding down the path of the writer as my calling.

Everything Ghostbusters related was by far my most precious childhood memory, and my inner child, bustin' made him feel good. Ghostbusters was sacred to me, my inner child's safe, happy place.

Then Ghostbusters (2016) happened which was, pardon my graphic language, like this:

very over the top metaphor follows
my inner child was DIS-A-POIN-TED! (Language contra ENWorld’s ToS removed.

The Ghostbusters that obliges us to call the real Ghostbusters film Ghostbusters (1984) by its very existence was badly written badly acted unfunny uninspired insulting preposterous callow cash grab that, if you had a problem with it, it had to be because you HATE THE WAHMENS, it couldn't be any of the dozens of things obviously horribly wrong with it. I'm not going to lie: I am still angry enough about Ghostbusters (2016) that I can't quite bring myself to even click on the trailer for this. It is too soon. It's too soon.

What I gleaned about Afterlife (the people involved, the premise, the milieu, etc.) from skimming the first page of this thread seems somewhat promising. The other vague impression I get from the same brief skim is that it seems to be leaning noticeably more towards the spooky/scary side of Ghostbusters and away from the comedy aspects which is an...interesting choice.
 
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cbwjm

Legend
The people who trashed the 2016 movie weren't Trolls, the 2016 movie was a snooze. It was bad.

And those who are trashing this version are the same type of critics who trashed the Joker movie as a movie for Incels and I suspect it will have the same effect as it did for Joker. I predict this Ghostbuster movie will make over a billion dollars as well.
Considering they started trashing the movie before it was even out in theatres, even before a trailer was released, makes me think that they can't be called anything but trolls.
 

cbwjm

Legend
It’s a character. Why would you not one one of the characters back? Do you not want to see Venkman etc. either?
That's more or less why I didn't ruah out and watch the 2016 movie. Having watched the Ghostbusters movies as a kid, I wanted a sequel with the original characters, not new characters. I will watch it eventually, it's on my watch list, but I'm still not in a hurry.
 


Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I had no idea this was a thing. That will happen when you've pulled the plug and are living with just a few streaming services, not cable.
I didn't learn about this from a cable service (I've never even had one). I learned about it, like everybody else did, from the same internet you're using right now.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
very over the top metaphor follows
my inner child was thrown in a dirty white GMC panel van, gang-raped into unconsciousness by dickwolves, then the back of the van was flooded with liquid feces to the point where he very nearly drowned in it, then the van opened disgorging a flood of naughty word and a badly naughty word caked inner child who couldn't move and was possibly dead. Then an internet feminist who happened to be passing by spit on my inner child's unmoving, crap encrusted, possibly dead form, and called him a misogynist.

And THAT is entirely inappropriate. What were you thinking? Don't post in this thread again.
 

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