Glaring Error in d20 Future...

jeffers said:
They don't look green. F-classed stars are yellow-white visually. If a GM ever said the words "Green Star" I'd leave the table.

Fortunately, I don't have anyone like that in my game. Playing with someone that uptight about details in a pretend game can't be fun.
 
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Personally, if you got all huffy over "Green Star System" in my game, I'd point you at the door and remind you not to let it hit you on the way out.

In a game where there are sentient AI PC's, aliens walking around, and all the other fantastic things that a infinite universe could provide us, you're going to choke on Green Stars?

"OK, you're ship drops out of hyperspace, and after a few seconds the computers recover from the reality shock. According to the scanners that the 3 armed, 3 legged, 6 lobed, nine eyed creature running the long range scanner, there's a Green Star up ahead with 3 asteriods and...."

"Wait a minute? A green star? A GREEN star? I quit! This is unrealistic!"

Geez, if you're imagination can't wrap around a green star, in a fiction genre that support everything from mining on the surface of a neutron star, to vast fleets of "Tilling" spaceships, to self-aware computer battleships seeking to destroy all life, to The Force, to whatever else you can think off....

Perhaps a +2 sword is more your speed.
 


Whatever

There is green in the spectrum of the sun as has been demonstrated in the articles by the astronomers and astrophysicists. Fine, it looks yellow or white-yellow to our eyes. It's not that important. I wouldn't leave the table for a statement such as "LOOK, Green Star!"

Realistic star system generation is still a matter of preference as opposed to cold, hard facts. One reason we haven't found Earthlike extra solar planets yet is because our instruments are not precise enough to detect either the wobble generated by an earth-massed star or resolve an earthlike planet close to a star because the disk it would produce is too small or too dark for the precision of our current instruments to pick up. There are new telescopes being built that will test that precision. There are some in Chile which are simultaneously controlled and emulate a Much larger mirror, giving us the light gathering ability of a mirror measured in tens of meters instead of numbers of meters. Also interferometers at the Lowell Observatory in Arizona are coming online, giving a huge increase in light gathering ability and disk precision. The next generation space telescope after Hubble will blow Hubble away in its capabilities. It's just a matter of time before we pick up earth sized planets in other systems. Originally, even the Jupiter sized planets were beyond the precision of our instruments, and the first ones detected weren't confirmed until follow up observations with better instruments and techniques were made.

A good book to look at on planet construction is a book called Moons and Planets by William Hartmann. It's a college level text on the various theories of planetary development with lots of hard numbers and good physics. It's dry but an informative read. Good planetary generation systems are tricky to make, especially one that's easy to use and quick for DMs in a hurry. I have never tried since it would be hard for me to make a good, objective one.
 

Warlord Ralts said:
Personally, if you got all huffy over "Green Star System" in my game, I'd point you at the door and remind you not to let it hit you on the way out.

In a game where there are sentient AI PC's, aliens walking around, and all the other fantastic things that a infinite universe could provide us, you're going to choke on Green Stars?

"OK, you're ship drops out of hyperspace, and after a few seconds the computers recover from the reality shock. According to the scanners that the 3 armed, 3 legged, 6 lobed, nine eyed creature running the long range scanner, there's a Green Star up ahead with 3 asteriods and...."

"Wait a minute? A green star? A GREEN star? I quit! This is unrealistic!"

Geez, if you're imagination can't wrap around a green star, in a fiction genre that support everything from mining on the surface of a neutron star, to vast fleets of "Tilling" spaceships, to self-aware computer battleships seeking to destroy all life, to The Force, to whatever else you can think off....

Perhaps a +2 sword is more your speed.
It´s strange, but to some degree, I can understand him.
I am considering doing a D20 Firefly "One-Shot" for my group. The players don`t know anything about the setting (except one), because the series didn`t air (and probably will never) in Germany. (Without the Internet and specifically the ENWorld Movie/TV forum, I wouldn`t know about it, either, and would have never bougth the DVD as a UK Import )
I want to give the playerers some information about the background, but there is one question: Does the Firefly setting feature interstellar FTL travel or does it not? Many hints in the series seem to indicate all the planets they visit are actually within a single stellar system, which would indicate a massive Terraforming on this very system. Unfortunately, this doesn`t seem very believable, since the area for habitable space around a star is very limited.
You see, I am thinking it is unrealistic to have dozens of habitable planets around a star, but no problem to accept FasterThanLight engines! Stupid Me. :)
 

Just for the record, there was a nice planetary/system generator system in a game called Universe from SPI. Its out of print, but it was every bit as well done as the original Traveller game. They even included a "realistic" spaceship combat system ("Delta-V) and a local area star chart (generated from actual data, if I properly recall).

It just had the misfortune of being released scant months before SPI folded its tent and became RPG history.

You may be able to find it in on Ebay or some kind of OOP Game store.
 

Mustrum_Ridcully said:
I want to give the playerers some information about the background, but there is one question: Does the Firefly setting feature interstellar FTL travel or does it not? Many hints in the series seem to indicate all the planets they visit are actually within a single stellar system, which would indicate a massive Terraforming on this very system. Unfortunately, this doesn`t seem very believable, since the area for habitable space around a star is very limited.
There's not a lot of solid information, as I recall, but my understanding is that the whole setting is one stellar system with essentially everything terraformed that's terraformable.
That system is not Sol, though, so FTL travel probably exists...or else Firefly takes place way way WAY in the future.
 

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