D&D General Good min-maxes (no multiclass)

[Zardnaar]

It's usually far too late to come online, but a 14th level Illusionist with Illusory Reality and the feat to take Misty Visions is absolutely brutal. It's not unplayable before that either, with Misty Visions being such a workhorse, and Malleable Illusions coming online at 6th.

If you class isnt Decent by level 6 its probably bad.

Level 10 is to far to wait.

 

[Horwath]

If you class isnt Decent by level 6 its probably bad.

Level 10 is to far to wait.

this!
I'm in the camp for; capstone should be at 11th level.
That is 11th level is latest for "new" abilities for the class.
above that can only be more usages or better version of already gained abilities.

 

[Zardnaar]

this!
I'm in the camp for; capstone should be at 11th level.
That is 11th level is latest for "new" abilities for the class.
above that can only be more usages or better version of already gained abilities.

Yeah thats basically it.

If the games starting at level 20 absolutely stuff like tha matters.

If its level 1-3 odds are the fame wont reach 10 if it does its probably not much further.

Im running at 13. I suspect thats higher than most reach. Its the final level.

 

[TwoSix]

It's usually far too late to come online, but a 14th level Illusionist with Illusory Reality and the feat to take Misty Visions is absolutely brutal. It's not unplayable before that either, with Misty Visions being such a workhorse, and Malleable Illusions coming online at 6th.

I recently has to make a 14th level replacement character; I was thinking about illusionist wizard but I realized Illusory Reality would simply be too painful to inflict on my DM. Mirage Arcana + Illusory Reality is just so broken, and that's not a term I generally use.