Good single player PC Rpgs?

[trancejeremy]

Indeed. Best game since BG2.

Are you seriously comparing Jade Empire to BG2? That's just ridiculous. Jade Empire is much closer to the KOTOR games, only about 1/3 as long (and interesting), and with more action based combat

 

[jeffh]

There's also Temple of Elemental Evil. Not the best cRPG around, but still quite fun.

With the Co8 mods, it's actually quite good. And it's the best way to learn D&D3 tactics, bar none, especially with Co8 having squashed quite a lot of the bugs (they even have someone who knows how to edit the dll again).

 

[stevelabny]

Those are all top-down RPGs in the same mold as BG...

if you want to go even older school, Might and Magic 1-7 are really great (althought some people think theyre only great for the first 90% of each game)

 

[Christoph the Magus]

There's also Temple of Elemental Evil. Not the best cRPG around, but still quite fun.

The Fallout series is great, indeed.

Bye
Thanee

If you install all of the patches/mods from the Circle of Eight you'll end up with a pretty good game, IMO.

 

[takyris]

Are you seriously comparing Jade Empire to BG2? That's just ridiculous. Jade Empire is much closer to the KOTOR games, only about 1/3 as long (and interesting), and with more action based combat

Both points of view are valid, although I played and liked both games.

BG2 wasn't a graphics powerhouse even at the time of its creation, so if you care about graphics, Jade stomps all over it.

BG2's story is pretty simple, and there isn't a whole lot of depth to the conversations. Jade's story is extremely well written and hits some interesting philosophical points.

On the flip side, BG2 stomps all over Jade in terms of breadth. In Jade PC, you'll be fairly limited in where you can go, compared to the nigh-limitless areas of BG2. You also won't have the depth of inventory-management options that BG2 offered for minmaxing.

The combat is a wash. If you like Jade's combat, you like Jade's combat. It's about as easy as the combat in the first Prince of Persia game (Sands of Time), so don't go in expecting the difficulty of an arena combat game. Again, I enjoyed it, but I was about the right target audience -- a CRPG player who enjoyed the occasional arcade fighting game, but wasn't good enough to be bored by the fact that the Xbox version of Jade had easy combat.

(The PC version is supposed to be a fair amount more difficult.)

Like I said, I played and enjoyed both. If you go in looking for a hundred-hour game with a ton of side quests, you'll be disappointed in Jade PC. If you go in looking for a compelling story and 25-30 hours of fun gaming, you've got a very good chance of being a very happy camper (although some people of course still won't like it, either because they wanted more moral ambiguity or because they wanted something non-Asian in flavor or just because of the subjectivity of taste).

 

[Welverin]

Well said, I agree with it whole heartedly.

Particularly the bit on Jade Empire, it is a very good game, so long as you don't go in expecting some long epic.

Both points of view are valid, although I played and liked both games.

BG2 wasn't a graphics powerhouse even at the time of its creation, so if you care about graphics, Jade stomps all over it.

BG2's story is pretty simple, and there isn't a whole lot of depth to the conversations. Jade's story is extremely well written and hits some interesting philosophical points.

On the flip side, BG2 stomps all over Jade in terms of breadth. In Jade PC, you'll be fairly limited in where you can go, compared to the nigh-limitless areas of BG2. You also won't have the depth of inventory-management options that BG2 offered for minmaxing.

The combat is a wash. If you like Jade's combat, you like Jade's combat. It's about as easy as the combat in the first Prince of Persia game (Sands of Time), so don't go in expecting the difficulty of an arena combat game. Again, I enjoyed it, but I was about the right target audience -- a CRPG player who enjoyed the occasional arcade fighting game, but wasn't good enough to be bored by the fact that the Xbox version of Jade had easy combat.

(The PC version is supposed to be a fair amount more difficult.)

Like I said, I played and enjoyed both. If you go in looking for a hundred-hour game with a ton of side quests, you'll be disappointed in Jade PC. If you go in looking for a compelling story and 25-30 hours of fun gaming, you've got a very good chance of being a very happy camper (although some people of course still won't like it, either because they wanted more moral ambiguity or because they wanted something non-Asian in flavor or just because of the subjectivity of taste).

 

[GoodKingJayIII]

I have not paid close enough attention to the single-player RPG market. I've always loved the idea of an MMO more, but time constraints eventually catch up with me. I love playing with other people, but single-player allows me to complete a game on my own time.

I loved the first Dungeon Siege. Anyone else have anything to say about DS2, good bad or otherwise? Thinking about picking it up now.

Also, can anyone go into detail about the Temple of Elemental Evil and this "Co8" patch? I was always curious about the game, but poor reviews kept me away.

My machine is pretty mediocre; almost three years old. My graphics card is functional (NVidia FX5200) but very outdated. I'd upgrade if I knew a little more about installing hardware. I'm also a bit wary about spending more money on this thing because within the next year I'll probably be forced to buy a Vista system.

 

[Nifft]

Also, can anyone go into detail about the Temple of Elemental Evil and this "Co8" patch? I was always curious about the game, but poor reviews kept me away.

"Co8" means "Circle of Eight".

http://www.co8.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3543

Cheers, -- N

 

[Endur]

if you want to go even older school, Might and Magic 1-7 are really great (althought some people think theyre only great for the first 90% of each game)

I agree with both sentiments. I'll never forget the first Might & Magic.

One of the later Might & Magic games let you start play owning a castle.

One of the last games let you run the villains (i.e. your character party had Liches, Vampires, Dragons, Trolls, etc.). The Dragons were, errrr, a bit powerful.

 

[Kaodi]

Now I am really starting to want Tormnet... but I have a thing for wanting only unused games, and Planescape: Torment is only available new for like $50 (including some game called Soulbringer). :\