Goodman Games: Our Efforts Have Been Mischaracterized

Company reiterates opposition to bigotry and says efforts are well-intentioned.
Goodman Games' CEO Joseph Goodman made a statement via YouTube over the weekend*. The video itself focused on the content of the controversial upcoming City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding product, but was prefaced by a short introduction by Joseph Goodman, in which he reiterates his company's commitment to inclusivity and diversity and its opposition to bigotry, something which they say they "don't want to be associated with".

Goodman goes on to say that the company's efforts have been "mischaracterized by some folks" but does not go so far as to identify the mischaracterization, so it's not entirely clear what they consider to be untrue other than the "inaccurate" statements made by Bob Bledsaw II of Judges Guild about Goodman Games' plans, which Goodman mentioned last week.

For those who haven't been following this story, it has been covered in the articles Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter, Goodman Games Offers Assurances About Judges Guild Royalties, and Judges Guild Makes Statement About Goodman Controversy. In short, Goodman Games is currently licensing an old property from a company with which it claimed to have cut ties in 2020 after the owner of that company made a number of bigoted comments on social media. Goodman Games has repeatedly said that this move would allow them to provide backers of an old unfulfilled Judges Guild Kickstarter with refunds, but there are many people questioning seeming contradictions in both the timelines involved and in the appropriateness of the whole endeavour.

Despite the backlash, the prospects of the crowdfunding project do not seem to have been harmed. The pre-launch page has over 3,000 followers, and many of the comments under the YouTube videos or on other social media are not only very supportive of the project, but also condemn those who question its appropriateness. In comparison, the original (failed) Judges Guild Kickstarter had only 965 backers.

The video is embedded below, followed by a transcript of the relevant section.



Hi everybody, I'm Joseph Goodman of Goodman Games. We recently announced our City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding project for 5E and DCC RPG.

In the video you're about to see, some of our product development team is going to tell you about what makes the City State so amazing and why we're bringing it back to 5E and DCC audiences nearly 50 years after it was first released. It really is an amazing setting.

But we could have rolled this project out with a lot more clarity. Now, to be clear, Goodman Games absolutely opposes any sort of bigotry, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, transphobia. We don't want to support it. We don't want to be associated with it.

Our well-intentioned effort to launch this project in a way that refunds backers of a former failed Kickstarter from another publisher kind of backfired in the way we announced it. Rest assured, the funds from this crowdfunding will actually fund refunds to backers of the original City State crowdfunding for the Pathfinder edition from 2014.

Unfortunately, our efforts have been—you know, I didn’t clarify them perfectly when we rolled it out—and they've been mischaracterized by some folks since then. But please rest assured, we stand for inclusivity and diversity.

You can read a lot more detail in the post that's linked below, and there's another video linked below where we talk about this in even more detail. But for now, we hope you will sit back and enjoy as some of the product development team tells you about really what makes the City State of the Invincible Overlord so amazing, and why you might want to check it out when it comes to crowdfunding soon.

Thanks, and I'll turn it over to them now.

The statement refers to a post about this that is supposed to be linked below, but at the time of writing no post is linked below the video, so it's not clear if that refers to a new post or one of Goodman Games' previous statements on the issue.

I reached out to Joseph Goodman last week to offer a non-confrontational (although direct and candid) interview in which he could answer some ongoing questions and talk on his reasoning behind the decision; I have not yet received a response to the offer--I did, however, indicate that I was just leaving for UK Games Expo, and wouldn't be back until this week.

*Normally I would have covered this in a more timely fashion, but I was away at UK Games Expo from Thursday through to Monday.
 

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He was definitely not alone, though. One of the biggest OSR Facebook groups has a rainbow flag version of the OSR logo for its logo, for instance.
I have no interest in supporting bad actors in any way, but I also don't think they speak for the hobby. Creators of a certain status in the RPG scene have a presence that, IMO, far outweighs their actual impact outside of the internet. Let them fade away, I say.
 

I have no interest in supporting bad actors in any way, but I also don't think they speak for the hobby. Creators of a certain status in the RPG scene have a presence that, IMO, far outweighs their actual impact outside of the internet. Let them fade away, I say.
One of the biggest problematic OSR voices from the G+ era, who was incredibly prominent (memorably namechecked in the 5E PHB) has effectively been erased from history. So it definitely can work.
 

One of the biggest problematic OSR voices from the G+ era, who was incredibly prominent (memorably namechecked in the 5E PHB) has effectively been erased from history. So it definitely can work.
I guess what I'm saying is that in some cases I think the attention drawn to those bad actors by endless internet shouting is, at least in some part, serving to continue to float their boat. Attention whores gonna whore if you'll forgive the language.
 

I guess what I'm saying is that in some cases I think the attention drawn to those bad actors by endless internet shouting is, at least in some part, serving to continue to float their boat. Attention whores gonna whore if you'll forgive the language.
No, I agree. This thread hasn't name-checked at least three major problematic people for that reason. I think most of these folks, when they get largely ignored, tend to recede deeper and deeper into their caves with the handful of followers they've got left (mostly people who are fully on board with their problematic views).
 


I guess what I'm saying is that in some cases I think the attention drawn to those bad actors by endless internet shouting is, at least in some part, serving to continue to float their boat. Attention whores gonna whore if you'll forgive the language.

No, I agree. This thread hasn't name-checked at least three major problematic people for that reason. I think most of these folks, when they get largely ignored, tend to recede deeper and deeper into their caves with the handful of followers they've got left (mostly people who are fully on board with their problematic views).
Like a lot of things, It's a dual-edged sword. On the one hand, you want enough of a history there that anyone searching that person's name is gonna find the bad stuff. But after a certain point, yeah, you let 'em fade into obscurity.
 

I guess what I'm saying is that in some cases I think the attention drawn to those bad actors by endless internet shouting is, at least in some part, serving to continue to float their boat. Attention whores gonna whore if you'll forgive the language.
So . . . when we learn of bad actors we should just keep quiet about it? Not spread the news to others who might not know?

Yeah, the whole idea of being quiet so as to "not platform" bad actors . . . no thanks.
 
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