Goodman Games: Our Efforts Have Been Mischaracterized

Company reiterates opposition to bigotry and says efforts are well-intentioned.
Goodman Games' CEO Joseph Goodman made a statement via YouTube over the weekend*. The video itself focused on the content of the controversial upcoming City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding product, but was prefaced by a short introduction by Joseph Goodman, in which he reiterates his company's commitment to inclusivity and diversity and its opposition to bigotry, something which they say they "don't want to be associated with".

Goodman goes on to say that the company's efforts have been "mischaracterized by some folks" but does not go so far as to identify the mischaracterization, so it's not entirely clear what they consider to be untrue other than the "inaccurate" statements made by Bob Bledsaw II of Judges Guild about Goodman Games' plans, which Goodman mentioned last week.

For those who haven't been following this story, it has been covered in the articles Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter, Goodman Games Offers Assurances About Judges Guild Royalties, and Judges Guild Makes Statement About Goodman Controversy. In short, Goodman Games is currently licensing an old property from a company with which it claimed to have cut ties in 2020 after the owner of that company made a number of bigoted comments on social media. Goodman Games has repeatedly said that this move would allow them to provide backers of an old unfulfilled Judges Guild Kickstarter with refunds, but there are many people questioning seeming contradictions in both the timelines involved and in the appropriateness of the whole endeavour.

Despite the backlash, the prospects of the crowdfunding project do not seem to have been harmed. The pre-launch page has over 3,000 followers, and many of the comments under the YouTube videos or on other social media are not only very supportive of the project, but also condemn those who question its appropriateness. In comparison, the original (failed) Judges Guild Kickstarter had only 965 backers.

The video is embedded below, followed by a transcript of the relevant section.



Hi everybody, I'm Joseph Goodman of Goodman Games. We recently announced our City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding project for 5E and DCC RPG.

In the video you're about to see, some of our product development team is going to tell you about what makes the City State so amazing and why we're bringing it back to 5E and DCC audiences nearly 50 years after it was first released. It really is an amazing setting.

But we could have rolled this project out with a lot more clarity. Now, to be clear, Goodman Games absolutely opposes any sort of bigotry, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, transphobia. We don't want to support it. We don't want to be associated with it.

Our well-intentioned effort to launch this project in a way that refunds backers of a former failed Kickstarter from another publisher kind of backfired in the way we announced it. Rest assured, the funds from this crowdfunding will actually fund refunds to backers of the original City State crowdfunding for the Pathfinder edition from 2014.

Unfortunately, our efforts have been—you know, I didn’t clarify them perfectly when we rolled it out—and they've been mischaracterized by some folks since then. But please rest assured, we stand for inclusivity and diversity.

You can read a lot more detail in the post that's linked below, and there's another video linked below where we talk about this in even more detail. But for now, we hope you will sit back and enjoy as some of the product development team tells you about really what makes the City State of the Invincible Overlord so amazing, and why you might want to check it out when it comes to crowdfunding soon.

Thanks, and I'll turn it over to them now.

The statement refers to a post about this that is supposed to be linked below, but at the time of writing no post is linked below the video, so it's not clear if that refers to a new post or one of Goodman Games' previous statements on the issue.

I reached out to Joseph Goodman last week to offer a non-confrontational (although direct and candid) interview in which he could answer some ongoing questions and talk on his reasoning behind the decision; I have not yet received a response to the offer--I did, however, indicate that I was just leaving for UK Games Expo, and wouldn't be back until this week.

*Normally I would have covered this in a more timely fashion, but I was away at UK Games Expo from Thursday through to Monday.
 

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I think this might be true of people who are 'online' but I don't think it's true of the community at large.
Well, we’re discussing this in a thread about one of the most prominent publishers in the community, and talking about other publishers with issues. To me, that’s the most visible folks. Ones with actual skin in the game. I don’t know what online means in that context.

If they’re not standing up, I can’t imagine what average Joe Schmoe the OSR fan thinks. Again, I come back to the conclusion that some of these people are afraid that they can’t stand up to bigotry within the community, which is a capital P - Problem.
 

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Well, we’re discussing this in a thread about one of the most prominent publishers in the community, and talking about other publishers with issues. To me, that’s the most visible folks. Ones with actual skin in the game. I don’t know what online means in that context.

If they’re not standing up, I can’t imagine what average Joe Schmoe the OSR fan thinks. Again, I come back to the conclusion that some of these people are afraid that they can’t stand up to bigotry within the community, which is a capital P - Problem.
I mean that what the behavior of those individuals has to say about the wider OSR community, by which I mean all those great folks who play and don't post on forums or discord is probably overstated. Painting the group because of the behavior of the few is some nonsense.
 

If they’re not standing up, I can’t imagine what average Joe Schmoe the OSR fan thinks. Again, I come back to the conclusion that some of these people are afraid that they can’t stand up to bigotry within the community, which is a capital P - Problem.
My own friends who are OSR players over a certain generation have been leaning towards that point of view over the years. It's sad to see, but nearly every one of them thought I was making too big of a deal about Bledsoe.
They're very much "anti cancel culture." Their games have a feel of Viking, celebrate Northern European folklore, the traditions of "their people."
I don't know if I'm reading too much into it, but maybe they're problematic?
 

I mean that what the behavior of those individuals has to say about the wider OSR community, by which I mean all those great folks who play and don't post on forums or discord is probably overstated. Painting the group because of the behavior of the few is some nonsense.
But that’s my point. I’m not judging based on some random person on a Discord server. Some of these folks are the leaders of said community. When Goodman Games punts on disassociating from people like Bledsaw, that matters a whole lot more than someone posting invective on a message board. When someone reviews an OSR product and ignores the elephant in the room because they don’t want to pick sides? Like, I got nothing, man.
 

But that’s my point. I’m not judging based on some random person on a Discord server. Some of these folks are the leaders of said community. When Goodman Games punts on disassociating from people like Bledsaw, that matters a whole lot more than someone posting invective on a message board. When someone reviews an OSR product and ignores the elephant in the room because they don’t want to pick sides? Like, I got nothing, man.
No, what you're doing is judging a whole bunch of people you don't know based on those few visible people. The vast majority of people who buy and play OSR games probably don't even know who those people are. Go ahead and judge people who are actually guilty of things as harshly as they deserve, but don't even pretend there's any good reason to judge some wider group of people that have nothing in common beyond playing a certain sort of very popular game. Ridiculous.
 



No, what you're doing is judging a whole bunch of people you don't know based on those few visible people. The vast majority of people who buy and play OSR games probably don't even know who those people are. Go ahead and judge people who are actually guilty of things as harshly as they deserve, but don't even pretend there's any good reason to judge some wider group of people that have nothing in common beyond playing a certain sort of very popular game. Ridiculous.
Nope. Not what is happening here.
 

My own friends who are OSR players over a certain generation have been leaning towards that point of view over the years. It's sad to see, but nearly every one of them thought I was making too big of a deal about Bledsoe.
They're very much "anti cancel culture." Their games have a feel of Viking, celebrate Northern European folklore, the traditions of "their people."
I don't know if I'm reading too much into it, but maybe they're problematic?
Yeeah, these guys don't sound great. "Their people" is a red flag and one where the logo is probably pretty bad.
 

But that’s my point. I’m not judging based on some random person on a Discord server. Some of these folks are the leaders of said community. When Goodman Games punts on disassociating from people like Bledsaw, that matters a whole lot more than someone posting invective on a message board. When someone reviews an OSR product and ignores the elephant in the room because they don’t want to pick sides? Like, I got nothing, man.
There are hundreds of OSR companies, many of whom have loudly expressed their opposition to this kind of crap. You cannot extrapolate like this, unless you want to bear the responsibility for all of the bad actors that resemble you in any way.

Yes, as was said many pages ago, folks like Bob World Builder and Questing Beast 100% have a responsibility they're not living up to by not saying anything. But that's as far as you can extrapolate here.
 

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