Goodman Games: Our Efforts Have Been Mischaracterized

Company reiterates opposition to bigotry and says efforts are well-intentioned.
Goodman Games' CEO Joseph Goodman made a statement via YouTube over the weekend*. The video itself focused on the content of the controversial upcoming City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding product, but was prefaced by a short introduction by Joseph Goodman, in which he reiterates his company's commitment to inclusivity and diversity and its opposition to bigotry, something which they say they "don't want to be associated with".

Goodman goes on to say that the company's efforts have been "mischaracterized by some folks" but does not go so far as to identify the mischaracterization, so it's not entirely clear what they consider to be untrue other than the "inaccurate" statements made by Bob Bledsaw II of Judges Guild about Goodman Games' plans, which Goodman mentioned last week.

For those who haven't been following this story, it has been covered in the articles Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter, Goodman Games Offers Assurances About Judges Guild Royalties, and Judges Guild Makes Statement About Goodman Controversy. In short, Goodman Games is currently licensing an old property from a company with which it claimed to have cut ties in 2020 after the owner of that company made a number of bigoted comments on social media. Goodman Games has repeatedly said that this move would allow them to provide backers of an old unfulfilled Judges Guild Kickstarter with refunds, but there are many people questioning seeming contradictions in both the timelines involved and in the appropriateness of the whole endeavour.

Despite the backlash, the prospects of the crowdfunding project do not seem to have been harmed. The pre-launch page has over 3,000 followers, and many of the comments under the YouTube videos or on other social media are not only very supportive of the project, but also condemn those who question its appropriateness. In comparison, the original (failed) Judges Guild Kickstarter had only 965 backers.

The video is embedded below, followed by a transcript of the relevant section.



Hi everybody, I'm Joseph Goodman of Goodman Games. We recently announced our City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding project for 5E and DCC RPG.

In the video you're about to see, some of our product development team is going to tell you about what makes the City State so amazing and why we're bringing it back to 5E and DCC audiences nearly 50 years after it was first released. It really is an amazing setting.

But we could have rolled this project out with a lot more clarity. Now, to be clear, Goodman Games absolutely opposes any sort of bigotry, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, transphobia. We don't want to support it. We don't want to be associated with it.

Our well-intentioned effort to launch this project in a way that refunds backers of a former failed Kickstarter from another publisher kind of backfired in the way we announced it. Rest assured, the funds from this crowdfunding will actually fund refunds to backers of the original City State crowdfunding for the Pathfinder edition from 2014.

Unfortunately, our efforts have been—you know, I didn’t clarify them perfectly when we rolled it out—and they've been mischaracterized by some folks since then. But please rest assured, we stand for inclusivity and diversity.

You can read a lot more detail in the post that's linked below, and there's another video linked below where we talk about this in even more detail. But for now, we hope you will sit back and enjoy as some of the product development team tells you about really what makes the City State of the Invincible Overlord so amazing, and why you might want to check it out when it comes to crowdfunding soon.

Thanks, and I'll turn it over to them now.

The statement refers to a post about this that is supposed to be linked below, but at the time of writing no post is linked below the video, so it's not clear if that refers to a new post or one of Goodman Games' previous statements on the issue.

I reached out to Joseph Goodman last week to offer a non-confrontational (although direct and candid) interview in which he could answer some ongoing questions and talk on his reasoning behind the decision; I have not yet received a response to the offer--I did, however, indicate that I was just leaving for UK Games Expo, and wouldn't be back until this week.

*Normally I would have covered this in a more timely fashion, but I was away at UK Games Expo from Thursday through to Monday.
 

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It's ideas like that, that humanity can be simply divided into "good" and "bad" that leads to bigoted thinking.

People are complex. We're all at least a little racist. And even the worst racists are capable of love, altruism, and charity.
even if they could be capable of that, it doesn’t make them good people, they thoroughly stay in the bad camp

Just because there is a spectrum does not mean you cannot draw a line through it and divide it into good on one side and bad on the other, it’s just that some of the bad are worse than some others
 

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The book Not By the Sword, by Kathryn Watterson, is the true story of a Grand Dragon of the Klan in Nebraska who cut ties with the Klan and White Nationalism thanks to the kindness and outreach of the Jewish family he was threatening. This is hardly the norm, and I doubt everyone is reachable, but it's a fair example that some folks are. The world isn't going to get any better through absolutism.
 


I mean, it's a true story, so the logic is evidently there: had that family not shown that bigot how to better himself, he'd still be a bigot. Some people can change for the better if we show them how. Throwing every criminal into prison for life is as cold and unkind as the criminal behavior being condemned. Sometimes worse. Not all criminals are career criminals, and they're likely to become such if we treat them as such.

If we deny people the opportunity, guidance, means, and reasons to improve, we're only confirming their biases, further entrenching them. Condemning someone for their words/behaviour and assuring appropriate consequences? Yes, absolutely. But writing them off as an irretrievable loss exposes the same lack of empathy, sympathy, and insight as those we condemn.

ETA: I never said anything was okay, of course. Bigotry isn't okay. Straw men aren't okay, either.
 



even if they could be capable of that, it doesn’t make them good people, they thoroughly stay in the bad camp

Just because there is a spectrum does not mean you cannot draw a line through it and divide it into good on one side and bad on the other, it’s just that some of the bad are worse than some others
There are definitely some folks who deserve to be in the "bad" column, for sure.

But "drawing lines" is problematic.

And as other posters have pointed out, we need to be vigilant and vocally opposed to racism and other forms of bigotry. But writing folks off as evil and irredeemable isn't great either.

You can reject racism, but still work towards helping others overcome their racists beliefs and actions. You won't reach everyone, but you might reach a few. It's worth keeping that in mind.
 

Look, if someone wants to be the Nazi Whisperer, well, it's fine to have an odd hobby (right now mine involves reading, then writing about Darkover novels). I ain't gonna join in.
 

Speaking for myself, I feel that the heartwarming stories of a racist/bigot who reforms their ways after a friendship with a black man, or gay man, or someone from a non-Christian religion, etc tend to simply come off as soothing balms to make people feel complacent. They feel like bandaids to me over wider cracks in our society. All the Green Book stories in the world aren’t going to fix bigotry and racism because they are individual stories amidst a raft of systemic problems.
 

There are definitely some folks who deserve to be in the "bad" column, for sure.

But "drawing lines" is problematic.

And as other posters have pointed out, we need to be vigilant and vocally opposed to racism and other forms of bigotry. But writing folks off as evil and irredeemable isn't great either.

You can reject racism, but still work towards helping others overcome their racists beliefs and actions. You won't reach everyone, but you might reach a few. It's worth keeping that in mind.
it’s a line, not a prison. People can cross over that line, I am not expecting most of them to do so however
 

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