Greatest American? (All Over on Page Eight)

[Tarrasque Wrangler]

Lincoln saved the Union, defined the modern presidency and set the tone for every President that came after him. He inherited a colossal national crisis from his inept predecessor and wasn't afraid of controversy when it came to righting it. Unlike Jefferson, who is as remembered for the things he'd have liked to have done than what he actually did do, Lincoln talked the talk and walked the walk. 'Nuff said.

 

[Desdichado]

Lincoln saved the Union, defined the modern presidency and set the tone for every President that came after him. He inherited a colossal national crisis from his inept predecessor and wasn't afraid of controversy when it came to righting it. Unlike Jefferson, who is as remembered for the things he'd have liked to have done than what he actually did do, Lincoln talked the talk and walked the walk. 'Nuff said.

Uh, well he was the primary author of the Declaration of Independence. It's not like he didn't do anything...

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Uh, well he was the primary author of the Declaration of Independence. It's not like he didn't do anything...

Of course, he handed his draft off to Franklin who helped edit it abit... (said mostly in jest but Franklin did help with some of the more memorable lines.)

 

[Steve Jung]

Ben Franklin for me.

 

[Captain Tagon]

Uh, well he was the primary author of the Declaration of Independence. It's not like he didn't do anything...

Main author of the words, not the ideas. He was picked for his eloquence to put down the ideas of the committee. And he managed to rip-off John Locke. But if you're going to steal ideas, he's a good one to do it from.

 

[Ferret]

Since when was Einstein an american?

I nearly sucumbed to voting Gates, but he only put the code and machine together. That was close.....

 

[wingsandsword]

Since when was Einstein an american?

He recieved United States Citizenship in 1940 (having renounced his German citizenship in 1933 and fled to America), which he retained for the rest of his life. He was offered the first Presidency of Israel in 1948 but declined it to remain an American. One thing traditionally great about America is that it isn't neccesarily where you're born, it is a place you can come to start a new life or be more than you could before.

http://nobelprize.org/physics/laureates/1921/einstein-bio.html

(I'm still sticking with Jefferson for all time, but Einstein is definitely one of the greats of the 20th century, along with FDR).

 

[diaglo]

My Grandfather.
edit: but since i can't choose other i went with Ali.

he stood up for all the things i held to be worth being an American. he defended his rights to life, liberty, religion, etc... in front of millions. as a kid i believed him

 

[Storm Raven]

Yes, he was not proud of his time in the Presidency. Let see one not put up yet. Ingonore the Law and enforce an enlegal treaty. He told the Supreme Court to inforce it own ruling about a treaty with an indian nation. The treaty clealy spelled that there was a politicly prosses for the indian nation to ratifey the treaty. The Inidian actualy sued the US over this and won then Jefferson enforced it anyway.

I believe that was Andrew Jackson, not Jefferson. Jackson's famous quote was "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it."

 

[TanisFrey]

I believe that was Andrew Jackson, not Jefferson. Jackson's famous quote was "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it."

oops, sorry.