Greatest Hero of All Time (Preliminary Research before Poll)

[Richards]

I'd like to nominate Abraham Lincoln. Actually, I'm kind of surprised he hadn't been mentioned yet. (Or did I miss it?)

Johnathan

 

[Eosin the Red]

Jester -

Thanks for clearing things up. I like the way the criteria are now worded.

 

[Templetroll]

The Lone Ranger

 

[kreynolds]

THE CHEESE OF THE CROP

I think you meant "THE CREAM OF THE CROP". You're not from the States, are you?

 

[jester47]

I think you meant "THE CREAM OF THE CROP". You're not from the States, are you?

Word! I am from the states. I just make up expressions all the time. I was thinking "big cheeze." But then I said well, the "big cheeze" is not really a hero, just someone in charge. So I figured cheese is related to cream, and so I came up with "The Cheeze of the crop." I have actually coined a few that have come back to me through differnt channels.

Aaron.

 

[Celtavian]

Re

I'm just going to add as I agree with most choices on here.

I am surprised no one has mentioned the following character from LOTR:

Lady Eowyn. The only lady to ride with the muster of Rohan. She stood before the Head of Nazgul and defied him in defense of her fallen king. She nearly single-handedly slew the most powerful of the Nazgul whom no man could stand against. She is one of the most heroic characters in the book in my opinion. The only more heroic character is Samwise Gamgee and Frodo, in that order.

 

[Furn_Darkside]

You're not from the States, are you?

I blame public education.

On a serious note, Jester47, the only problem with your criteria is #1:

1. would be recognised as a hero universally if everyone heard about that person.

There is a growing trend in the US of A to tear down many of the people it considers heroes.

Public opinion is too much like the leading of sheep for it to be a factor in what is heroic.

FD

 

[Celtavian]

Re

[q]Public opinion is too much like the leading of sheep for it to be a factor in what is heroic.[/q]

Very true. Even in America people of different races have different heroes. I would be that even when folks are the same race, such as the Irish Catholics and English Protestants of Britain, they may have different heroes.

Univeral recognition is nigh on impossible.

 

[teitan]

I would have to say that if you strip that nasty reputation out of his past ad just look at his accomplishments and the adversity he had to overcome that Aleister Crowley can be admired as a great adventurer and hero. The man still holds mountain climbing records, was a part of the K2 climb of 1908, the one that broke the world record up to that point. His endeavours to spread his own life philosophy has led to many of the current freedoms of modern life that we all savour now. His accomplishments may seem small but they are far reaching. He was a direct influence on the peace and love generation.

Jason

 

[jester47]

There is a growing trend in the US of A to tear down many of the people it considers heroes.

Public opinion is too much like the leading of sheep for it to be a factor in what is heroic.

FD

I can't stress this enough, #1 has NOTHING to do with public opinion. And it has nothing to do with tearing down heros. It has EVERYTHING to do with weather you, as a human being will recognise the nobility of the hero's actions.

And keep in mind that Hitler is a hero to many many racists and neo nazis, the greatest hero in fact. Is he a hero to the rest of us? Hell #&c%ing no!

A TRUE hero is considered a hero no mater who hears the story.

Everyone does not have to agree at the same time. It is just that the story presented to a human being will get a response that the person in question is a hero.

So another revision of the language-

A true hero:

1. always tries to do what they think is the right thing putting themselves at risk to do so.
2. achieves whatever right thing it is they set out to do or dies trying (meaning they never give up on a fight, challenge, or goal)
3. must be mortal (i.e. they have to fail sometime)

Additionally the GREATEST hero:

1. would be recognised as a hero if any human being heard about that person.



Aaron