Green Ronin Crowdfunding Legal Defense Fund In Fight Against Diamond Distrubutors

Company fighting to get its stock back.
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Green Ronin Publishing has set up a crowdfunding campaign to help cover legal fees fighting to get back their inventory from Diamond Comic Distributors in what it describes as "a dire financial threat to our company, not just today, but well into the future".

Diamond, which filed for Bankruptcy in January, still holds the stock of Green Ronin and over one hundred other companies in its warehouse, and has asked the court for ownership of that inventory so that it can liquidate it and pay its creditors. The distributor, while being mainly comic-book focused, also serves as distributor for some toy and TTRPG companies, including Green Ronin, Paizo, Goodman Games, and Roll For Combat.

The GoFundMe had raised $17K at the time of writing, with over 200 donations.

Paizo Publishing, also affected, has announced that its upcoming releases will not be available at major bookstores or at Amazon because the company has stopped shipping products to Diamond. This includes 12 August releases and 10 September releases, such as Starfinder Player Core, Starfinder GM Core, Pathfinder Battlecry, and more.

The court has scheduled a hearing on July 21 to hear objections from the affected vendors.

My name is Nicole Lindroos, co-owner of Green Ronin Publishing. Diamond Comic Distributors' recent Chapter 11 bankruptcy has impacted over 100 independent publishers, including Green Ronin, putting us in a very precarious position. Diamond is attempting to use a legal technicality to claim ownership of millions of dollars worth of consigned inventory, which amounts to several hundreds of thousands of dollars for Green Ronin Publishing alone. This is stock that we still own and have not been paid for.

This is a dire financial threat to our company, not just today, but well into the future. We must secure legal representation immediately before the deadline to do so passes.

While there is no "good" time for someone to steal hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of your property to sell for the benefit of their biggest creditors, it is especially challenging given that Gen Con is weeks away. Gen Con is not just a convention for us, it's our most important annual event for connecting with TTRPG enthusiasts, our business partners, and our community, and this year is no exception. We're launching new products and have already committed significant funds to cover everything from booth space, travel (flights, rooms), and most critically, the production of new books and merchandise specifically for the show floor.

Diamond’s bankruptcy and this legal action also mean that Green Ronin has lost its book trade distributor. We are looking for a new partner, but that will take some time. Book trade sales of literary licenses, currently The Fifth Season and The Expanse, are a key part of our strategies for those games. This is especially bad timing for The Fifth Season RPG because we recently received final approvals from N.K. Jemisin and the game is ready to go to print.

We simply don't have the cash on hand to do all of this, pay for an attorney, or participate in any collective legal actions with other publishers in our same position.

The banks are stopping at nothing to wring every last dollar out of Diamond - including taking several hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of Green Ronin product to sell in order to pay Diamond’s debts - but they can't do that, and we've got a legal agreement that says as much. Now, we just need to secure a law firm to represent us in the courts.

The funds raised through this campaign will be used directly to cover the escalating legal fees associated with fighting Diamond's claim in bankruptcy court. This includes attorney retainers, court filing fees, and the costs of pursuing every possible avenue to recover our inventory and protect Green Ronin's assets.
 

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I get helping bailing a company you support out of a crisis (which is why we boosted the signal here), but just donating to buy a company assets isn't the same thing at all.

Hasn't EN World done funding drives to support server upgrades?

I am not entirely sure how this is different.
 

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In the USA, a well-run company hopes for 3 to 4% profit, so the gross will tell you a great deal.

Couple that with the claim they can't raise $50,000 on a few week's notice, and either they're trying to offset their losses via fake panhandling, or their profit margin isn't all that great.
This persistent attack on GR is pretty obnoxious. But when you step over the line into actually accusing them of things based on the flimsiest of evidence you made up, you need to Back. Off. This is not a request. Tone it down, please or you’ll be asked to leave the conversation.
 

In the USA, a well-run company hopes for 3 to 4% profit

When I look around, I see advice that typical "small business" is looking for a profit margin of 10% to 20%.

Steve Jackson Games - in 2023, they had a gross revenue of about $3.5 million... and were taking a loss for the year. No profits.


And that's the point - gross revenue tells you something about the magnitude of the business, but squat-all about the current financial position of the business.

... or their profit margin isn't all that great.

And... you were somehow unaware that the profit margin on RPG publishing is small?
 



With me it is. I consider it a success if I break even. I pretty much put all income into the next project to the point I don't consider it a "real" income at all.

As far as I can tell, that's true of a lot of the one-man-bands in the hobby. At best, they consider it a vaguely money making side-gig. At best.

(I'm leaving Kevin Crawford out of this since he seems a pretty extreme outlier.)
 

With me it is. I consider it a success if I break even. I pretty much put all income into the next project to the point I don't consider it a "real" income at all.
That sounds more like a hobby then a business to be honest.

Hasn't EN World done funding drives to support server upgrades?

I am not entirely sure how this is different.
I think it's significantly different.

We use ENworld for 'free', what we were told way back when was that what was raised with subscriptions and ads wasn't enough to keep/upgrade ENworld. 25 years ago keeping a site like Enworld running would have probably cost more then it does now (relatively, corrected for inflation). The site still runs a php forum solution, sure it might be a bit heavier, but it also does more out of the box, probably requiring less custom code. That slightly heavier is easily compensated by far more powerful hardware becoming the standard in the last decade and a half.

If there was a fundraiser to upgrade the servers in 2025, I suspect that people will probably start asking lots of questions...
 

That sounds more like a hobby then a business to be honest.
Oh, I'm a business. I'm registered and everything! :P

What's that saying? "If you want to end up with a million dollar RPG business, start with 2 million." I don't know the number of Indie businesses in this hobby also have day jobs, but I bet I'm not the only one.
 

If there was a fundraiser to upgrade the servers in 2025, I suspect that people will probably start asking lots of questions...
I think it’s clear you would. Your stance on such things has been made very clear.

But no, that’s not a likely occurrence in the foreseeable future. Server hardware is a pretty minimal cost these days.
 

That sounds more like a hobby then a business to be honest.


I think it's significantly different.

We use ENworld for 'free', what we were told way back when was that what was raised with subscriptions and ads wasn't enough to keep/upgrade ENworld. 25 years ago keeping a site like Enworld running would have probably cost more then it does now (relatively, corrected for inflation). The site still runs a php forum solution, sure it might be a bit heavier, but it also does more out of the box, probably requiring less custom code. That slightly heavier is easily compensated by far more powerful hardware becoming the standard in the last decade and a half.

If there was a fundraiser to upgrade the servers in 2025, I suspect that people will probably start asking lots of questions...

Well there was this Kickstarter:


Crumbs was it really 10 years ago now.....
 

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