GTS 2009 D&D Seminar - the Rouse discusses D&D

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Too bad the horrific Dragonlance Animated ....thing.... probably killed all chance of THAT happening....

Lord of the Rings managed to overcome a treatment by Rankin & Bass, so anything is possible.

If a D&D movie were to be made, I'd want to see something epic. Give me Age of Worms on the big screen, I'd pay money to see a group of heroes save the world from the worm god.
 

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Ahhh, let's leave SciFi out of the D&D movie discussion; frankly, the 2nd D&D movie was already like a made-for-SciFi flick. I'd rather see them get away from that sorta thing, IYKWIMAITYD.

Now, if we're talking about a TV series that'd be a whole 'nother thing, as they've done pretty well on the series side of things: BSG, for example.
 



Ahhh, let's leave SciFi out of the D&D movie discussion; frankly, the 2nd D&D movie was already like a made-for-SciFi flick. I'd rather see them get away from that sorta thing, IYKWIMAITYD.

Now, if we're talking about a TV series that'd be a whole 'nother thing, as they've done pretty well on the series side of things: BSG, for example.

If you want to recreate the feeling of a D&D game, you will usually have something pretty action-heavy. Such a show would be costly. BSG managed pretty well by having a lot of non-SFX stuff going on (you know, the part some people decry as soap operaish), but they could pull off the big stuff for the important things.

I think a movie is a good way to go.

Of course, the story of an inspector and his friends in Sharn might be awesome. Pulp Noir Fantasy. The problem might be the cost of CGI in an ongoing series in an exotic locale as Sharn...

Maybe one shouldn't even really think of D&D tropes specifically. It might be enough to have just the equivalent of Stargate or BSG for fantasy settings.

Stargate is actually pretty close - medieval city of the day was a standard trope. Just have the character wield swords and fireballs instead of rifles and grenades.



For writers, I'd recommend jonrog1, Mouseferatu and Piratecat. Hypersmurf can be stunt coordinator or something. ;)
Edit: Oh, and Rel could do the casting.
 
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Of course, the story of an inspector and his friends in Sharn might be awesome. Pulp Noir Fantasy. The problem might be the cost of CGI in an ongoing series in an exotic locale as Sharn...
One reason why I would like to see Sigil for a urban fantasy one. You could set it in the Hive, and film in lots of industrial areas that have been redressed to look like Sigil. The costs be more for magic, cosmetics for different races and probably would use some manner of digital matte-painting for the background.

Another reason too I would like to see it on HBO as a mini-series cause well if HBO thinks it will do well it could get big production. Imagine the above with a production value of Rome, Band of Brothers, etc. Also being on HBO they could make good, mature stories that would showcase the range of D&D.
 

Another reason too I would like to see it on HBO as a mini-series cause well if HBO thinks it will do well it could get big production. Imagine the above with a production value of Rome, Band of Brothers, etc. Also being on HBO they could make good, mature stories that would showcase the range of D&D.

Sadly—for the Dungeons & Dragons brand, not in general—HBO already has a major fantasy series in the works, and is unlikely to undertake another one for the next few years:

—Siran Dunmorgan
 

Ahhh, let's leave SciFi out of the D&D movie discussion; frankly, the 2nd D&D movie was already like a made-for-SciFi flick. I'd rather see them get away from that sorta thing, IYKWIMAITYD.

Now, if we're talking about a TV series that'd be a whole 'nother thing, as they've done pretty well on the series side of things: BSG, for example.

Lets leave Sci-Fi out for a series as well. For every BSG there is a Flash Gordon.

If HBO already has fantasy, then consider Showtime. Showtime gave us Stargate afterall.
 


I concur with the idea that WOTC needs to follow Marvel's lead in transitioning properties from its home media business (for D&D, that's the TRPG medium) to another media arena; that Hasbro already has something like this operational is a good sign for the business, and I would think that it would be good for the D&D brand (as well as the subordinate brands that are its vassals, such as the Realms) to work through such internal agencies. This is, from the perspective of the long-term health of D&D, not a bad thing.

Where I disagree is in specifics. Any movie made must be either a summer blockbuster or Oscar bait, primarily due to the monetary costs involved in making such a movie at all, and making a commercially-successful major blockbuster requires attractive talent that has the skill to pull it off before as well as behind the camera. That isn't cheap; this will force decisions on what to translate to film as well as how that gets done, because the pressure will be to focus on spectacle--something that film, as a medium, excells at doing--at the expense of the often-intangible characterization and narrative execution required to make a Dumb Blockbuster into a long-running classic film (with guaranteed revenue over generations) with high repeat-viewing potential.

A television series, on the other hand, lends itself far better to those two intangibles due to the relaxed pressure for spectacle. Serial television demands strong degrees of both characterization and narrative execution for commercial success, especially if the serial is a genre fiction work; the recently-concluded SFC version of Battlestar Galatica, for all its faults, is a very good example of Doing It Right (just as Babylon 5 was in the 1990s, for all of its faults).

The corpus of D&D-brand fiction needs to be divided along subgenre lines when figuring out what property to translate into which other medium. Where the fantasy merges with investigation, noir, some form of intrigue as a driving plot or subplot of the story then shunt it towards TV; where the story is focused on exploration, action scenes, high adventure, or other forms of spectacle that are far better done in a visual medium then shunt towards film. (Paragraphs of description become establishing shots, action routines, etc. that take seconds or minutes to unfold on screen instead of taking long minutes or worse in prose, especially as you get into Fat Fantasy territory and thus run into filler.)

The Icewind Dale novels would make very good films. They are strongly visual, possess easy plots to follow, and work best at the fast pace that a blockbuster has to have to be truly excellent. The prequels, on the other hand, would make for an excellent TV series; lots of melodrama, intrigue, double-dealing and other features of successful TV soap operas and costume dramas are present therein. Find the right actor to play the focal character in both sets, with the work ethic necessary (and health coverage to go with it; he'll need it), and you can make Salvatore's iconic drow outcast hero into a big mainstream cultural icon within five years (and thereby shape an entire generation for life to your banner).
 

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