Guys playing girls (chime in, ladies)

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I'm not sure I should be proud of this, but the test said:

"We are 8% sure you are a woman."

I corrected them, stating my masculinity.

But, I'm concerned. Not only did I fool the test, but they were incredibly unsure of themselves.

I mean, "8%!"
 

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Be worried that didn't say 50%. We all carry the X. Beyond that, the last psych book I had said that androgynous individuals actually have a lower mental disorder rate than people who were heavily in to their genders (Macho men and Mrs. Beaver housewives, basically). Even with gender identity, too much isn't healthy for you.

As for Fantasy, magic, as usual, changes much. In the real world, besides, one of the major issues isn't that women are homebodies, but that they are treated as property, rather than honored (thankfully, we're trying to pull away from that now) and respected as 'seperate but equal'. In D&D, ticking off 'the wife' carries even more risk than usual. 'Cause she could be a 5'1" weakling, but she might also have a level of adept and whack you with magic.
 

Dannyalcatraz said:
I'm not sure I should be proud of this, but the test said:

"We are 8% sure you are a woman."

I got 14% male, and a lovely (not really) picture of either a guy or a very square-jawed woman in an orange skirt suit. I'm definitely female, and among one of the girliest girls I know. I mean, I'd rather be bleeding to death than utterly lonely forever...

To keep this somewhat on topic, my DM forbids the playing of cross-gender characters because of some rather bad experiences with his initial college group (I think). No one in the group is particularly interested in doing so either, but its always just a little odd for me being the only female around. Someone knows another woman who plays, so I hope my main group gets a female to play with them while I go to college (all girl group now).

Also, in my college group, there's one girl who always plays guys. Except they are always very pretty, always very girly, and always oversexed, with 75% bi and 25% gay. At least in my experience with her. Eh.
 

MoriaCatlinChattal said:
There's some books you might try, by Tamora Pierce. I read them when I was much younger. They have strong girl characters, but are aimed at kids....... My younger sister likes them.......


Oh yeah - I really loved those too... I've been meaning to buy them for myself, it took a while to get them all through interlibrary loan in high school... I think the series name was "Song of the Lioness" but I forget the individual titles. I've also heard Ms. Pierce has continued to write novels about Alanna's (the main character) late life, but I haven't delved into those yet - sadly there are far too many books I have already queued up on my reading lists.
 

God, I'm tired of this girl who always plays male elves. They're not CAMP, exactly, but they always have about as much masculinity as a pink fluffy doily. A male friend of mine plays a female cleric. Her personality is that of a stern mum. Another male friend plays a female wizard. She's genderless - the only reason it's ever mentioned is because she happens to be Muslim (magical western europe type setting) and it means whenever she goes home clothing is an issue...

The girl's gonna play a female bard in a new campaign though, can't wait to see how that turns out.
 

masque said:
I got 14% male, and a lovely (not really) picture of either a guy or a very square-jawed woman in an orange skirt suit. I'm definitely female, and among one of the girliest girls I know. I mean, I'd rather be bleeding to death than utterly lonely forever...
Heh, I'm only 36% male, apparently. On the following "did you know" quotes:
  • Men are LESS likely to call this test "retarded" than women.
  • Women are MORE likely than men to choose a blue bedroom over a white one.
  • Men are LESS likely than women to realize that clams are alive.
  • Women are MORE likely than men to choose being lonely over bleeding to death.
I answered every single one of those as a woman. Go figure.
masque said:
To keep this somewhat on topic, my DM forbids the playing of cross-gender characters because of some rather bad experiences with his initial college group (I think). No one in the group is particularly interested in doing so either, but its always just a little odd for me being the only female around. Someone knows another woman who plays, so I hope my main group gets a female to play with them while I go to college (all girl group now).
The article I linked earlier makes a distinction between "actor" players and "writer" players, wherein an "actor" player will think about getting into the character and how well he can him. These types of players are unlikely to want to play cross-gender. "Writer" players, on the other hand, take a look at the scenario/campaign and think about what kind of character would be interesting in this situation. They are much more likely to not think anything at all odd about playing cross-gender if a cross-gender character is an interesting concept.

I am most definitely a "writer" player. If I think a female character sounds interesting, I'll play one.
 

Fieari said:
On the subject of gender traits and whether they exist-- have you seen "The Spark's Gender Test"? It's eerily accurate. http://community.sparknotes.com/gender/

My God... one of most blatantly stupid thing I've seen on the net for quite some time, and yet funny to play thanks for the link! :p

My absolutely favourite is when they ask you if you were born on an even or odd year... and then at the end of the test they explain how much your gender influences your view of the world. So if you are a man/woman, this actually influences backwards the year when you were born.

I'd really like to read some serious essays about how gender (and anything else) affects the people which designs psychology tests, but I suppose that even those essays would be affected and therefore won't be completely useful...
 

Several years ago I took a Masculinity/Femininity test online that was rather more indepth the the gender test mentioned. I came up as a true androgyne, which I suppose helps explain why most of my characters are pretty genderless and a lot of people don't quite know what to make of me...
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Corinth said:
The past was as it was for a reason, not all of which stemmed from some whacked-out dogma of woman-hating, and any setting with similiar physical conditions shall produce a similiar result.

I hope that you don't believe that I was trying to imply otherwise. And I also understand (and was aware of at the time of my previous post) your point about how important it can be for a given population to protect its women, from a reproductive standpoint.

I only meant that the default setting represented by the Core Rules is a far more equal society than our own medieval period and it seems largely implicit that it has been that way for a long period of time. I base this assumption on several facts supported by the Core Rules:

- Adventurers are fairly common.
- They are just as likely to be female as male.
- These people (the ones that survive anyway) will almost certainly come to be regarded as heroes or at least "personages of note" among the rest of the population, and therefore rolemodels.

Please don't misunderstand my point to mean that the game must or even should be played under these guidelines. I don't think that any given GM should feel constrained against having one, some or all of the societies in his world be one that pressures women away from dangerous roles. I don't even think he needs to come up with a good reason and I'll admit to having run my last campaign along those lines as well.

I only make the point that, in the absense of such designations for those societies, there is little reason for the male adventurers to regard females (and particularly female adventurers) as anything other than equals. "Equals" doesn't mean that they won't display any feminine traits, but I'd contend that their similarities will far outweigh any differences. And that's been a main theme of this thread anyway.

Just wanted to clarify my point a bit.
 

The test was... interesting. I would love to get my hands on the source code and database! They were 4% certain I was a woman. This doesn't bother me though it is something to ponder when I get around to it.
 

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