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Gygaxian Monsters

kenobi65

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Col_Pladoh said:
Those are great illustrations of goblinesque little fairy folk. Had I had that picture on hand when kobolds were put into the MM, that's is what I'd have passed along to DCSIII.

So, it would seem that the entire "kobolds thinking they're of the blood of dragons" can be traced back to a miscommunication in an art order in the late 1970s. :D
 

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rossik

First Post
kenobi65 said:
So, it would seem that the entire "kobolds thinking they're of the blood of dragons" can be traced back to a miscommunication in an art order in the late 1970s. :D


i thoght that the dragon relation was a 3ed thing, wasnt it?
 


JeffB

Legend
Col_Pladoh said:
:lol:

Those are great illustrations of goblinesque little fairy folk. Had I had that picture on hand when kobolds were put into the MM, that's is what I'd have passed along to DCSIII.

Thanks,
Gary

:D Well I've always enjoyed David's "incorrect" picture, and there's a nice take on it by Jeff Dee somewhere in one of the old 1E books I used to own (Rogues Gallery, IIRC) that is my fave "little dog/reptile men" kobold.

That said, I've always liked the "folklore" aesthetic approach to many monsters (as in your LA game e.g.), and I'd have no issue with Kobolds having looked like that illo throughout D&D's history. :)
 

Col_Pladoh

Gary Gygax
kenobi65 said:
So, it would seem that the entire "kobolds thinking they're of the blood of dragons" can be traced back to a miscommunication in an art order in the late 1970s. :D
Or more likely someone trying to change them for the sake of change.

Kobolds as originally concieved were based on folklore as noted...dragons' kin indeed :mad:

Cheerio,
Gary
 

Col_Pladoh

Gary Gygax
JeffB said:
:D Well I've always enjoyed David's "incorrect" picture, and there's a nice take on it by Jeff Dee somewhere in one of the old 1E books I used to own (Rogues Gallery, IIRC) that is my fave "little dog/reptile men" kobold.

That said, I've always liked the "folklore" aesthetic approach to many monsters (as in your LA game e.g.), and I'd have no issue with Kobolds having looked like that illo throughout D&D's history. :)
:cool:

Who can argue with personal preference? All GMs change whatever doesn't suit them in rules, settings, and modules :lol:

Cheerio,
Gary
 




John Q. Mayhem

First Post
Col_Pladoh said:
I confess it was my decision to give them wings. It was to make them more mobile and thus more dangerous.

Cheers,
Gary

I like 'em winged, too. By the by, there're winged manticores in The Guns of Avalon, second book in Zelazny's Chronicles of Amber, from the 70s. Have you ever read those books? They're fantastic, lots of fascinating stuff.
 

Col_Pladoh

Gary Gygax
John Q. Mayhem said:
I like 'em winged, too. By the by, there're winged manticores in The Guns of Avalon, second book in Zelazny's Chronicles of Amber, from the 70s. Have you ever read those books? They're fantastic, lots of fascinating stuff.
Howdy,

I like Zelazny's material a lot, but the "Amber" story did not appeal to me for whatever reason. I fought my way through the first book and passed on the others. On reflection it seemed too much like a soap opera to me.

Cheers,
Gary
 

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