Harniacs vs. d20/D&D players

[TiQuinn]

Yep, 3rd edition has plenty of failings as well, but I still think clarity and simplicity is the goal to shoot for. Obviously, it's a lot easier said than done, but then again that's why a big reason game designers have jobs. As for Gygax, I think a lot of the praise heaped upon him is for introducing the game in the first place, as well as praise for good old nostalgia's sake. I think there have been better designers since then.

However, I tip my cap to him for writing Against the Giants...it's still a damn fun module!

 

[Hakkenshi]

Well for all the fact that I do play some high-fantasy D&D and play video game RPGs, I find the description of Hârn interesting. I'm not saying I'd play it, since I don't know anyone who does, but I'd certainly take a look at the book(s).

If anything, though, the amount of detail mentioned might put me off. I use and enjoy using a whole lot of details in my games, but it's preparing the story for each session that takes up all my time there. Too much detail would just bog me down.

It's good to see that a lot of people seem to enjoy both systems

If there's one thing that I'm most interested in, it's the magic; I find that D&D magic eventually turns into a DM vs. player battle to counteract the overpowerful effects of spells. The DM and players should work together to have fun instead...

I think I'll check out Hârn's magic system

 

[Patrick-S&S]

Harn is nice, and as you have said, very detailed. But don't try to dress it up with importance it doesn't have.

Now you made me curious since I have seen both worlds and I for one can't relate to your post at all. What Hârn modules have you been reading exactly? Mind you that I own over 50+ books (and dozens of close related ones) of medieval history and they are quite similar to many of the Hârnic modules, both in writing style and word selection. True Hârn is different but that is because it is a roleplaying game and not a selection of history books. But compared to most games out there Hârn has an aura of medieval history feel about it (as do Ars and Pendragon) that few comes close to. So forgive me if I find your remarks a tad bit blatant since I for one can't relate to them. BTW, I too like D&D I just don't GM it like I do Hârn.

 

[Nightfall]

Anyone who agrees with me can't be all bad!

I guess I'm must be very evil then since I don't agree with you Kap! At least not all the time! But I DO respect your opinions.